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Horhay 02-08-2015 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1821994)
The gentleman above makes it seem like 2000 fighter pilot hours means you are Christ reborn. Flight time is flight time is flight time. This isn't a jab at any military or civilian pilots at all.

Hence....the utter lack of comprehension regarding what it is that military guys actually do whilst engaging in the "act" of aviating. 5 airlines, 5 fighter squadrons, part-121 and 135 capt and FO time...simply my opinion.

All I'll add to this conversation is that "collecting" hours, 3-4 hours per segment, 80/month...whilst negotiating radio frequency changes, reading checklists, making the "coffee or coke" decision when the FA takes drink requests, and perusing the sports section of USA today...well, it really isn't all that difficult fellas. Yes, GA and commercial have their challenges...and both Civy and Mil guys can certainly be toads...but the thinking that "flight time is flight time" is simply laughable...haha

GVGUY 02-08-2015 11:22 PM

The folks I know who've been hired all attended job fairs. I have a couple international recommendations, and can't get a call. However, I've not been to a job fair. While I realize military is preferred most of my experience has been in heavy corporate aircraft. I have not flown 121 in years. Hard to say what gets their attention.

9,000 TT
7,000 JET
3,000 TURBINE PIC
5 types
Mid thirties

ClearedDirect 02-09-2015 03:21 AM

Thanks for the info.
When is the next job fair that United will be at?
I'm seeing one in vagas end of April.
Any others??

Terrain Inop 02-09-2015 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by ClearedDirect (Post 1822036)
Thanks for the info.
When is the next job fair that United will be at?
I'm seeing one in vagas end of April.
Any others??

WIA Dallas in March
OBAP

ClearedDirect 02-09-2015 04:39 AM

Not sound ignorant, but can a male show up at a woman's conference?

Albief15 02-09-2015 05:05 AM

Yes, but you score more points if you Bruce Jennerize a bit....

Shrek 02-09-2015 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by GVGUY (Post 1822018)
The folks I know who've been hired all attended job fairs. I have a couple international recommendations, and can't get a call. However, I've not been to a job fair. While I realize military is preferred most of my experience has been in heavy corporate aircraft. I have not flown 121 in years. Hard to say what gets their attention.

9,000 TT
7,000 JET
3,000 TURBINE PIC
5 types
Mid thirties

Military preferred ?! Yeah uh no.

They are filling classes with applicants that are all over the map. It is HR's version of a well-rounded pilot group.

What's an "international" rec ? :) Recommendations ARE weighted differently though. A UAL pilot rec that has personally flown with you is near the top for example.

CenterlinePrep 02-09-2015 05:27 AM

Albie,

Almost spit my orange juice out when I read your post. Too funny!

LivinTheDream28 02-09-2015 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Horhay (Post 1822000)
Hence....the utter lack of comprehension regarding what it is that military guys actually do whilst engaging in the "act" of aviating. 5 airlines, 5 fighter squadrons, part-121 and 135 capt and FO time...simply my opinion.

All I'll add to this conversation is that "collecting" hours, 3-4 hours per segment, 80/month...whilst negotiating radio frequency changes, reading checklists, making the "coffee or coke" decision when the FA takes drink requests, and perusing the sports section of USA today...well, it really isn't all that difficult fellas. Yes, GA and commercial have their challenges...and both Civy and Mil guys can certainly be toads...but the thinking that "flight time is flight time" is simply laughable...haha

No doubt flying fighters is more difficult and probably takes more skill, but what are you being hired to do? Not fly fighters, but operate in the 121 environment as safely as possible. While military guys are usually great sticks, put them on ORD ground in the middle of a blizzard and good luck keeping up. My point is, we all have different skills and to say one side is better than the other is stupid. The military guys in our class struggled more than everyone else, not because they were bad aviators, but because they hadn't been through a 121 training program. Who do you think has an easier transition, a 10 year RJ capt, or a 2000 hour military fighter pilot?

5spot 02-09-2015 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by LivinTheDream28 (Post 1822190)
No doubt flying fighters is more difficult and probably takes more skill, but what are you being hired to do? Not fly fighters, but operate in the 121 environment as safely as possible. While military guys are usually great sticks, put them on ORD ground in the middle of a blizzard and good luck keeping up. My point is, we all have different skills and to say one side is better than the other is stupid. The military guys in our class struggled more than everyone else, not because they were bad aviators, but because they hadn't been through a 121 training program. Who do you think has an easier transition, a 10 year RJ capt, or a 2000 hour military fighter pilot?

Enough on this, what does it freakin matter. In the end everyone comes out the same. 2000 Hrs in a single seat fighter equates to around 1800 sorties. How many hours would you have after 1800 flights in an RJ? Like I said it is a wash. Lets leave it alone.


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