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Chuck D 02-09-2015 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by LivinTheDream28 (Post 1822190)
No doubt flying fighters is more difficult and probably takes more skill, but what are you being hired to do? Not fly fighters, but operate in the 121 environment as safely as possible. While military guys are usually great sticks, put them on ORD ground in the middle of a blizzard and good luck keeping up. My point is, we all have different skills and to say one side is better than the other is stupid. The military guys in our class struggled more than everyone else, not because they were bad aviators, but because they hadn't been through a 121 training program. Who do you think has an easier transition, a 10 year RJ capt, or a 2000 hour military fighter pilot?

Yeah, this issue is worth dropping! As a non-military pilot (but with military background), I know their training:flying ratio is far higher than the civilian side. I have no problem with it.

Either way, your opinion, and mine also, are irrelevant since the airlines seem to be happy accepting lower hours from the mil pilots.

John Carr 02-09-2015 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 1822059)
Yes, but you score more points if you Bruce Jennerize a bit....

But don't you dare Brian Williams.

Grumble 02-09-2015 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1821807)
The sad part is the 2000 hours of single pilot fighter pilot time means nothing in a 121 transport category airplane.... Oh this skrewed up industry


Got me hired.

5spot 02-09-2015 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1822243)
Got me hired.

Exactly! And I'm pretty sure you didn't get lost at the airport this winter in a snow storm!:D

satpak77 02-09-2015 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by bearcat (Post 1821543)
Sorry to burst your bubble and not to discredit your experience.....but.....you competition is guys that have 2000 hours in fighters with several combat tours and 4000 PIC turbine as RJ Captains.
5000 hours is a lot, but the competition is wicked right now. Welcome if you got hired, good luck if you are on the way to an interview

hey hey didn't you get the memo of the looming pilot shortage ?

;)

astec 02-09-2015 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1822243)
Got me hired.

clearly you and everyone else don't get the point I'm making.

but thats fine.. good luck

SUX4U 02-09-2015 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1822284)
clearly you and everyone else don't get the point I'm making.

but thats fine.. good luck

My reading comprehension must be terrible. I have re-read your post about 5 times and I still have no clue what your point is.

astec 02-09-2015 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by SUX4U (Post 1822288)
My reading comprehension must be terrible. I have re-read your post about 5 times and I still have no clue what your point is.

I pity the cockpit you sit in.

lets just make it simple for everyone

mil time>civilian time. yay happy everyone, go us

Hilltopper89 02-09-2015 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by LivinTheDream28 (Post 1822190)
No doubt flying fighters is more difficult and probably takes more skill, but what are you being hired to do? Not fly fighters, but operate in the 121 environment as safely as possible. While military guys are usually great sticks, put them on ORD ground in the middle of a blizzard and good luck keeping up. My point is, we all have different skills and to say one side is better than the other is stupid. The military guys in our class struggled more than everyone else, not because they were bad aviators, but because they hadn't been through a 121 training program. Who do you think has an easier transition, a 10 year RJ capt, or a 2000 hour military fighter pilot?

After doing both, and 121 for the past 2 years, I couldn't agree more. While looking back I think that flying single seat fighters was immensely difficult and taxing vs 121, they are 2 different things. 121 was humbling the first 6 months. It was more difficult than I thought it would be.

This said I think I've adapted quite well. My single seat FAC-A experience helped a lot with giving me high situational awareness and quick decision making, but keeping up in ORD just on the taxi during IOE was a challenge.

To put a number on it, 15 years and 2500 hrs of single seat experience would be on par with 10,000 hrs of regional 121 in either seat, but the 10,000 hr 121 guy will be right at home at a major. The mil single seat guy will have a much bigger hill to climb. I can say cuz I climbed it.

I saw the same with a 180 of that situation. Regional 121 guys learning to fly fighters had a challenge. Neither is better. Just different.

Cheers,

HT

SUX4U 02-09-2015 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1822312)
I pity the cockpit you sit in.

lets just make it simple for everyone

mil time>civilian time. yay happy everyone, go us

You are text book definition of that old saying "If everyone you meet is an a-hole, chances are you're the a-hole"!

Now that you have established we are all idiots and cant follow your intellect, you can get back in regulating the PSA forums.


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