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Jaded N Cynical 02-21-2015 11:28 AM

Guppys......whales.....aye aye captain sponge bob.

Andy 02-21-2015 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1829308)
Right. One was a overt, hyper competitive, and at times vicious campaign to extract customers from an airline at Denver Stapleton. The other, a campaign with the underlying intentions of forcing a company out of business, sending 100,000 workers to the street while Pavlov's dogs were salivating at the thought of carving up one of the best route structures in the world.

It's akin to comparing an international guppy to an international whale.

I think you're underplaying TORQUE. Its goal was to put Continental out of business. I don't see much difference between the two campaigns.

SpecialTracking 02-21-2015 12:52 PM

Taking passengers away Continental at Stapleton was going to sink the airline? How did Continental fair when they pulled out of Denver?

Pkcola 02-21-2015 02:13 PM

Was CAL a Scab Airline when the TORQUE program was started?

sleeves 02-21-2015 04:48 PM

I seem to remember a group walking around with stickers saying,"One LESS airline can make a difference."

Andy 02-21-2015 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1829356)
Taking passengers away Continental at Stapleton was going to sink the airline? How did Continental fair when they pulled out of Denver?

Before my time, but it wasn't limited to Denver.

nopac6 02-21-2015 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1829269)
If UA/DAL/AA really want to stab these airlines in the heart... hire every expat pilot at those airline that want to come home. There are quite a few.

Fantastic idea. Would force them to increase their pilot costs at the very least. I LOVE this idea! Lol

intrepidcv11 02-21-2015 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1829308)
Right. One was a overt, hyper competitive, and at times vicious campaign to extract customers from an airline at Denver Stapleton. The other, a campaign with the underlying intentions of forcing a company out of business, sending 100,000 workers to the street while Pavlov's dogs were salivating at the thought of carving up one of the best route structures in the world.

It's akin to comparing an international guppy to an international whale.

Yep definitely a good place for a guppy whale SLI barb. I have gotten to know quite a few strikers with well earned battle stars that refused to wear the sacred pin due to TORQUE campaign interactions with ALPA brethren. Guess they were overreacting. After all, one less airline can make a difference...

cal73 02-21-2015 11:23 PM

Let's try and stay on topic gentlemen. ...And yes I use that term loosely.;)

SpecialTracking 02-22-2015 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 (Post 1829620)
Yep definitely a good place for a guppy whale SLI barb. I have gotten to know quite a few strikers with well earned battle stars that refused to wear the sacred pin due to TORQUE campaign interactions with ALPA brethren. Guess they were overreacting. After all, one less airline can make a difference...

Once again a complete lack of knowledge is displayed as to why we wear the pin.


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