It's kind of amazing that somebody like Intrepid would be upset that a competitor was trying to compete and thinks that they were capable of putting CAL out if business during the 1980s. If there was one true enemy of CAL and CAL pilots it was their very own Frankie Lorenzo and the vast number of "replacement" workers that were being hired. Not to mention bankruptcy 1 and 2 all within a 6 year period. If there was ever a once proud airline gone bad that needed to be put down it was CAL in the 80s.

Lie detector tests, false medical claims, massive management harassment, scabs galore, many of whom still grace us with their slimy presence, the place was truly an evil empire of an airline.

Read about it here.

Flying the Line II: Chapter 14

Roger that. Given that some replying have that in the past branded us as members of 'scab' culture, why bother? And once the Flying The Line lectures start, it's time for far better things. Thankfully never run into this attitude at work, only APC

Whatever man. Post number 4 quoted above is a dig at the CAL pilot group. Intrepids reply points out that the UAL group is not without its own distasteful acts. I don't know of anyone who wrote such letters but I am sure some did, I believe Cal MGT did. As you said a competitor was competing. I agree with what Andy has pointed out, not much difference between the two campaigns.

Hoss what your post above represents is the double standard I see at times displayed. One act is distasteful if committed against LUAL yet justified if committed against LCAL because of our past. I got news for you, LCAL is part of OUR airlines history now, yours and mine at UCH.

Just keeping it real. If you guys want to lob schit around expect some return fire.

I think if you go back and look at the start of the thread, post 4,you will find the poo lobing started from your side. Your side also started the torque campaigns first as well. If any pilots did write letters to stop any ATSB loans my guess is it was those that had witnessed the ugliness of that campaign. I know it did leave an everlasting mark on some. As you said, expect return fire.

You CAL guys sure do get you knickers in a twist. First post no 4 wasn't lobbing anything at CAL. I never heard of any CAL pilots writing letters and the post had nothing to do with CAL. My later CAL response resulted from the TORQUE comment and how nasty United was and the harm inflicted upon CAL. Then it turned into a why we don't wear our pin diatribe. Get over it fellas.

You guys need to stop looking for the boogeyman in places where he isn't.

I guess they have taught monkeys to fly, because we're seeing the proverbial feces-flinging from both sides of the aisle.

Let's review:

Lorenzo: gone.

ATSB: history.

TORQUE: over; stripped the nuts.

Every day: one day closer to a scab-free airline.

Get the thread back on topic or it closes.

The real enemy is incompetence at the top, misguided corporate priorities, and flagging service standards.

19 may 2028.

^^+1. And we can always hope they lose their medical or take early reirement.

Now: back to International flying growth. "Doctor, ever since I started flying to Rio, I've had this weird bump on my..."

TF, right?

Oh yeah, I fully support hiring every Gulf guy that wants to come back ASAP.