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CousinEddie 02-20-2015 07:45 AM

The case against future international growth
 
Report Says Gulf Airlines Got $39B (With More to Come) in Illegal Subsidies - Pg.2 - TheStreet


http://www.independentmail.com/news/...over-subsidies

awax 02-20-2015 09:32 PM

Oh, I remember the ATSB loans and aid. United, one of the airlines directly affected by 9/11 didn't get aid or loans. I don't think American even applied.

Justdoinmyjob 02-20-2015 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 1829071)
Oh, I remember the ATSB loans and aid. United, one of the airlines directly affected by 9/11 didn't get aid or loans. I don't think American even applied.

Neither did NWA or DAL.

SpecialTracking 02-20-2015 11:32 PM

Those of us at UAL certainly do appreciate the pilots who wrote letters against our ATSB loan guarantee application. Another in a long list of distasteful acts.

Sonny Crockett 02-21-2015 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1829085)
Those of us at UAL certainly do appreciate the pilots who wrote letters against our ATSB loan guarantee application. Another in a long list of distasteful acts.


.......yup!

oldmako 02-21-2015 05:57 AM

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pilot64golfer 02-21-2015 08:40 AM

And even though Congress allocated up to $5B in "loan guarantees" very little was ever taken, and it was all paid back with interest by the airlines that borrowed it.

Of course the press for YEARS talked about the $5B handout to the airlines.

intrepidcv11 02-21-2015 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1829085)
Those of us at UAL certainly do appreciate the pilots who wrote letters against our ATSB loan guarantee application. Another in a long list of distasteful acts.

Yep just as disgusting as the TORQUE campaign.

Grumble 02-21-2015 10:19 AM

If UA/DAL/AA really want to stab these airlines in the heart... hire every expat pilot at those airline that want to come home. There are quite a few.

SpecialTracking 02-21-2015 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 (Post 1829219)
Yep just as disgusting as the TORQUE campaign.

Right. One was a overt, hyper competitive, and at times vicious campaign to extract customers from an airline at Denver Stapleton. The other, a campaign with the underlying intentions of forcing a company out of business, sending 100,000 workers to the street while Pavlov's dogs were salivating at the thought of carving up one of the best route structures in the world.

It's akin to comparing an international guppy to an international whale.


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