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Andy 04-15-2015 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 1862193)
Nor have I. But, my ACP told me about reducing block hours. Not sure the company wants to officially release the info. May be sort of a hold back to keep some info out of the public realm.

Reducing block hours at this point of the business cycle doesn't make sense. Load factors are about as high as they can get and Delta's growing ASMs at a 5% annual pace. I haven't bothered looking at American due to merger integration. All of the smaller airlines are growing like weeds.

magro99 04-15-2015 10:27 AM

Anyone attend the town hall meeting in ORD today? Just curious if there was anything new on the training center selection or any other exciting rumors to be started...

24/48 04-15-2015 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 1862016)
Rahm Emanuel has the authority to unilaterally offer tax breaks?

Are these tax breaks indefinite or do they expire?

Do they go to the support employees?

Not sure what his authority is in this situation, though he is cut from the Obama mold so I guess acting unilaterally wouldn't be out of the realm. As to specifics, I have none.

SpecialTracking 04-15-2015 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by magro99 (Post 1862483)
Anyone attend the town hall meeting in ORD today? Just curious if there was anything new on the training center selection or any other exciting rumors to be started...

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Xjetter 04-15-2015 11:49 AM

how about we talk about our poor customer service rating.

Has anyone read comments on United Facebook page? start there....we have a serious issue and I do not understand why this is not #1 on priority list...

Shrek 04-15-2015 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Xjetter (Post 1862535)
how about we talk about our poor customer service rating.

Has anyone read comments on United Facebook page? start there....we have a serious issue and I do not understand why this is not #1 on priority list...

Ok talk about it..........GO !

flyboycpa 04-15-2015 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Shrek (Post 1862711)
Ok talk about it..........GO !

..but on a new thread, not this one

flyboycpa 04-15-2015 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by boxer6 (Post 1862117)
Anything other than Denver is a poor choice as far as quality and continuity of training experience is concerned. As someone has mentioned, if it moves out of Denver they are going to lose a gargantuan amount of experience. It's obvious that they don't care a hoot about that aspect. If they did, they would have simply decided to build a nice new complex off Tower Rd. right off the bat. But, my GUESS is that Sr mgmt would like to break apart the TK enclave as it is today. It is no secret that the way things are run post merger is the Theory X, micromanage style. If that is your goal, what would you do?

I challenge the "quality and continuity of training experience" considering that L-UAL instructors are trying to teach newbies how the [predominantly] L-CAL crews operate the 756 out of Newark for European destinations. It's borderline comical to see how the newbies are trained.

I also challenge that a "gargantuan amount of experience" was lost from Houston, as well.

We all know that either training center can teach someone to pass a type-rating ride in a Boeing, to the new United SOP, but it's all the personal little things that are way different. I've seen L-UAL Check Airman with IOE newbies that looked nearly as lost as their newbie-counterpart trying to operate the L-CAL fleet over the Atlantic to a destination they may have only seen once, if at all.

I would also make the statement, that if the shoe were on the other foot, and all training was being done in Houston, that a L-CAL instructor wouldn't teach the A-320 nearly as effectively as a L-UAL instructor, simply due to experience on the airframe.

boxer6 04-16-2015 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by flyboycpa (Post 1862724)
I challenge the "quality and continuity of training experience" considering that L-UAL instructors are trying to teach newbies how the [predominantly] L-CAL crews operate the 756 out of Newark for European destinations. It's borderline comical to see how the newbies are trained.

I also challenge that a "gargantuan amount of experience" was lost from Houston, as well.

We all know that either training center can teach someone to pass a type-rating ride in a Boeing, to the new United SOP, but it's all the personal little things that are way different. I've seen L-UAL Check Airman with IOE newbies that looked nearly as lost as their newbie-counterpart trying to operate the L-CAL fleet over the Atlantic to a destination they may have only seen once, if at all.

I would also make the statement, that if the shoe were on the other foot, and all training was being done in Houston, that a L-CAL instructor wouldn't teach the A-320 nearly as effectively as a L-UAL instructor, simply due to experience on the airframe.

Congratulations on going down the L vs. L road.

Nothing you said was incorrect, but merely unnecessary, as it was the obvious. I made only operational points with regard to the group as a WHOLE.

The whole point is to MINIMIZE the upheaval. By going to ORD, it maximizes this. IAH, a bit less so. Of the three choices, DEN minimizes this as I'm quite sure the FEWEST new instructors will be needed at that location. I think we all want something more than just passing a check ride, don't we?

SpecialTracking 04-16-2015 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by boxer6 (Post 1863256)
I think we all want something more than just passing a check ride, don't we?

A modernized version of tk with a cafeteria/restaurants in walking distance. A quality hotel that has restaurants and other entertainment nearby.

....and bring back the Ham Lee picture.


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