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Originally Posted by osuav8r (Post 1859160)

I'm senior enough as an IAH737 fo that there's no chance of me getting bumped. Why would a guy want to avoid an equipment freeze? The only thing it would really prevent you from doing is bidding back to the 737 as far as I understand it.

No. If you bid ANYTHING that is not UPWARD (i.e. same or lower) you get a Bidding Freeze for 24 months and you can't bid again. (This doesn't count changing bases in the same equipment)

This isn't the old contract. We have 3 different types of freezes. Everyone seems to know about Equipment Training Freeze, but not the other 2.

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 1859174)

Percentage bid maybe?

I have a percentage bid in for several bases so I usually come and go off the snapshots as they change. You would have to look and see if the 5 "missing" pilots changed percentage over the last snapshot or if they were awarded another fleet or base on the next snapshot.

That makes sense. Ditto, the bidding larger equipment and having an out if you don't like the flying. That all makes good sense.

Looks like rather than posting a final, they posted another snapshot today- if you're hoping for a backfill, looks like you'll have to wait until Monday.

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Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 1859628)

Looks like rather than posting a final, they posted another snapshot today- if you're hoping for a backfill, looks like you'll have to wait until Monday.

I would be surprised to see any backfill. Keep in mind they were at the MAX for most desirable categories. It would take a lot of people leaving WB slots to drop below MIN. Then again...you never know!

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Originally Posted by LifeNtheFstLne (Post 1859661)

Did they run the snapshot before the noon closing on the 10th or after?

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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 1859940)

Did they run the snapshot before the noon closing on the 10th or after?

After noon (toward the end of the business day) with a note at the top that says the final bid with backfills will be released Monday.

This is exactly what i did. Make them displace without a seatlock and if im in training for 5 months so be it... Ill go to airbus, get the type a few hundred hours on type maybe, then go on the 76

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Originally Posted by skippy (Post 1859994)

This is exactly what i did. Make them displace without a seatlock and if im in training for 5 months so be it... Ill go to airbus, get the type a few hundred hours on type maybe, then go on the 76

My understanding is that you can go to the bus voluntarily, get that same few hundred hours and then bid the 76 as soon as there is a vacancy.

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1858989)

The only reason I can think of doing that is if you're very junior IAH 737 FO and want a bit more seniority in your base/equipment.

I am one of these 'very junior' 737 IAH F/Os that took an Airbus slot. I am about 90% on the 737 and expect to be about 40-45%ish on the Airbus.

It was a no-brainer to take it now rather than wait around on the 737 at 90% hoping you don't get sent to CCS on a 75 hours layover on your reserve days.

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Originally Posted by osuav8r (Post 1859160)

I'm senior enough as an IAH737 fo that there's no chance of me getting bumped. Why would a guy want to avoid an equipment freeze?

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Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1859433)

To further add to this, Section 8-D-2 (Bidding Freeze) covers this. The language, however, uses the phrase "may be ineligible" so it looks like the company can unilaterally remove the freeze if they see fit. A bidding freeze does not preclude you from upgrading in your current "frozen" equipment or bidding the same equipment in a different base.. Also, there is a provision allowing you to bid a new base. Oddly, that provision is in addition to the provision allowing you to bid between bases in your frozen equipment so one assumption could be that you could bid different equipment in that new base.