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flybynuts 05-14-2015 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1880547)
Hmmm... Interesting. I hope you're right. If we are indeed going to exercise options down the road to cover the 10 we swapped for the 773 (which is what UAL is saying publicly), are they going to be 789 or 7810?

I believe it will be 787-1000s. The only issues is that this plan has some softness to it that can change tomorrow and we just stick with the swap and not net more WB planes. If the demand from other airlines stays high, we may be out of luck. The economy and many other factors will dictate and boeing seems to be in the drivers seat.

SOTeric 05-14-2015 05:24 PM

These wanna-be fleet planning specialists/ average line pilots crack me up.

Fly your jet, go home. Let it go.

Blockoutblockin 05-14-2015 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 1880842)
These wanna-be fleet planning specialists/ average line pilots crack me up.

Fly your jet, go home. Let it go.

^^^^THIS^^^^

:eek::D

flybynuts 05-14-2015 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 1880842)
These wanna-be fleet planning specialists/ average line pilots crack me up.

Fly your jet, go home. Let it go.

I was talking with the 787 fleet manager and a few others today. This is what was passed. Nothing more. I don't like seeing the usual complaining even with good news. So you don't care about mainline growth?

jsled 05-14-2015 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 1880842)
These wanna-be fleet planning specialists/ average line pilots crack me up.

Fly your jet, go home. Let it go.

Go read the first post on this thread. Is it not EXACTLY what came to pass? A319s? 24? (ok. 25, but still) It's not about being a fleet planning specialist, it's about having good sources. :cool: Which can change your bidding $trategy$$.

Sled

baseball 05-15-2015 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by SOTeric (Post 1880842)
These wanna-be fleet planning specialists/ average line pilots crack me up.

Fly your jet, go home. Let it go.

That's what I do. Fly, go home, fly, go home, rinse and repeat.

Here's the take-away. UAL has too many "fleet planning specialists" We have too many cooks in the kitchen and it shows. In most of our processes and departments we have a "management by collaborative chaos" philosophy and a fundamental lack of leadership and decision-making, and on the execution side. This flows from the top though.

Senior corporate leadership: uninspiring, non competive, lack luster. WI-FI reliability: poor. MX reliability: psss poor. Staffing on the 76T: super poor. Long Haul PRASM: low due to lack of wide-bodies and poor planning. Attitudes: below par. Middle management: too layered, too cumbersome, incompetent, blame-gameers, redundant, over-staffed and bloated. Flight Office support: very good, considering culture of incompetence in middle management. Product supplied to passengers: below average, lacking.

I am an average airline pilot, so I don't care about our fleet planning specialists. I just want our airline to get its act together. Our fleet planning side is just reflective of the entire airline's incompetence. Why would this department be any different? Let's hear it for HR for hiring the best and the brightest.

Andy 05-15-2015 09:10 AM

SOTeric, Blockoutblockin, baseball, speculation/passing on rumors, etc are some of the things that happen on this forum. All three of you have engaged in the exact same thing that this thread has done. It is beyond hypocritical to complain about this thread.

And 'fleet planning specialists'? How is passing on rumors, citing company press releases, etc being a 'fleet planning specialist'? I'm unable to connect the dots on that illogic leap.

Like flybynuts said, complaining about good news? Seriously?

AllenAllert 05-15-2015 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 1881109)
That's what I do. Fly, go home, fly, go home, rinse and repeat.

Here's the take-away. UAL has too many "fleet planning specialists" We have too many cooks in the kitchen and it shows. In most of our processes and departments we have a "management by collaborative chaos" philosophy and a fundamental lack of leadership and decision-making, and on the execution side. This flows from the top though.

Senior corporate leadership: uninspiring, non competive, lack luster. WI-FI reliability: poor. MX reliability: psss poor. Staffing on the 76T: super poor. Long Haul PRASM: low due to lack of wide-bodies and poor planning. Attitudes: below par. Middle management: too layered, too cumbersome, incompetent, blame-gameers, redundant, over-staffed and bloated. Flight Office support: very good, considering culture of incompetence in middle management. Product supplied to passengers: below average, lacking.

I am an average airline pilot, so I don't care about our fleet planning specialists. I just want our airline to get its act together. Our fleet planning side is just reflective of the entire airline's incompetence. Why would this department be any different? Let's hear it for HR for hiring the best and the brightest.

Best post of the thread.

Captain Bligh 05-15-2015 07:41 PM

wow... fairly well polarized. I haven't been here in a while because of the chasm. Not here to offer any healing either. Blessed are the peacemakers? It ain't me, I aint no senator's son. Has anyone considered that the following may be the case?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DggA...ature=youtu.be

rp2pilot 05-17-2015 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 1881290)
SOTeric, Blockoutblockin, baseball, speculation/passing on rumors, etc are some of the things that happen on this forum. All three of you have engaged in the exact same thing that this thread has done. It is beyond hypocritical to complain about this thread.

And 'fleet planning specialists'? How is passing on rumors, citing company press releases, etc being a 'fleet planning specialist'? I'm unable to connect the dots on that illogic leap.

Like flybynuts said, complaining about good news? Seriously?

Unsubstantiated rumors, biased speculation and innuendo is what made this forum... it's why we come here :), Surely you can see the contradiction of the person that says, "I fly my jet and go home" and then posts about it on the forum?


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