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bottoms up 05-04-2015 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by 24/48 (Post 1873398)
Also heard that many were vocal about management not working with individual pilots. In fact, management had to remind them that they had to go through the union to get things done, that's how the system works. Just goes to show you that we still have folks that just don't get the "Collective" part of a CBA.

You heard wrong. That was due to 1 persons tirade about how he wasn't asked about uniforms and pay stubs. Beau (or Bo not sure) said I like your emotion and you should get involved with union as they were involved with uniform process. His reply was the union doesn't speak for me. (Audible grumbles could be heard)
I don't know the guy but I was there and he was pretty emotional talking about how the company doesn't value our heart etc...I think he kind of misspoke as Beau (or Bo) corrected him saying the union does speak for the pilots. Again he insisted that with his emotion to get involved with the union. There wasn't any side deal talking or what not. I think he kinda got caught up in his moment that he had to have practiced as there were several lines from Winston Churchill in his speech. His whole mantra was the company doesn't ask our suggestions. They just do.
From what I remember anyhow.
I was just passing through. Curious how the DEN town hall will go

There was talk of delays, gate agents, above/below wing delays etc
Denver meltdown from express being one of them.

24/48 05-05-2015 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by bottoms up (Post 1873759)
You heard wrong. That was due to 1 persons tirade about how he wasn't asked about uniforms and pay stubs. Beau (or Bo not sure) said I like your emotion and you should get involved with union as they were involved with uniform process. His reply was the union doesn't speak for me. (Audible grumbles could be heard)
I don't know the guy but I was there and he was pretty emotional talking about how the company doesn't value our heart etc...I think he kind of misspoke as Beau (or Bo) corrected him saying the union does speak for the pilots. Again he insisted that with his emotion to get involved with the union. There wasn't any side deal talking or what not. I think he kinda got caught up in his moment that he had to have practiced as there were several lines from Winston Churchill in his speech. His whole mantra was the company doesn't ask our suggestions. They just do.
From what I remember anyhow.
I was just passing through. Curious how the DEN town hall will go

There was talk of delays, gate agents, above/below wing delays etc
Denver meltdown from express being one of them.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Shrek 05-05-2015 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by bottoms up (Post 1873759)
You heard wrong. That was due to 1 persons tirade about how he wasn't asked about uniforms and pay stubs. Beau (or Bo not sure) said I like your emotion and you should get involved with union as they were involved with uniform process. His reply was the union doesn't speak for me. (Audible grumbles could be heard)
I don't know the guy but I was there and he was pretty emotional talking about how the company doesn't value our heart etc...I think he kind of misspoke as Beau (or Bo) corrected him saying the union does speak for the pilots. Again he insisted that with his emotion to get involved with the union. There wasn't any side deal talking or what not. I think he kinda got caught up in his moment that he had to have practiced as there were several lines from Winston Churchill in his speech. His whole mantra was the company doesn't ask our suggestions. They just do.
From what I remember anyhow.
I was just passing through. Curious how the DEN town hall will go

There was talk of delays, gate agents, above/below wing delays etc
Denver meltdown from express being one of them.

Was it Ben ?! :D


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