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Old 04-30-2015 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
The bump.......But what abut the bump?
I've heard Bumpapalooza starts in July/August. It will be an extravaganza. Ozzy is headlining.
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Old 04-30-2015 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
I've heard Bumpapalooza starts in July/August. It will be an extravaganza. Ozzy is headlining.
DUDE! I will see you in the mosh pit!!
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Old 04-30-2015 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
The cloud of IAH Capt displacements looms heavily over that juniority lasting.
Not sure it will be as bad as you think. If it goes to 200 737 guys that is about 5700 seniority. A320 CA is at 6872 now. The base is projected to grow as well. If 6872 remains the bottom guy then about 90 of the displaced pilots could slide into the A320 IAH CA slot. That leaves about 110 displaced. All of them can hold SFO, ORD, EWR 737 Capt. All but 11 can hold LAX Capt. All growing bases except EWR. All but 28 can hold EWR 75/76 Capt. Many will chase the left seat. All of them can hold 777 f/o in IAH. I would expect many to bid 787 but I doubt it will cause 787 F/O displacements in SFO.
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Old 04-30-2015 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeves
Not sure it will be as bad as you think. If it goes to 200 737 guys that is about 5700 seniority. A320 CA is at 6872 now. The base is projected to grow as well. If 6872 remains the bottom guy then about 90 of the displaced pilots could slide into the A320 IAH CA slot. That leaves about 110 displaced. All of them can hold SFO, ORD, EWR 737 Capt. All but 11 can hold LAX Capt. All growing bases except EWR. All but 28 can hold EWR 75/76 Capt. Many will chase the left seat. All of them can hold 777 f/o in IAH. I would expect many to bid 787 but I doubt it will cause 787 F/O displacements in SFO.
Perhaps but what will the guys bumped off the bus or 737 West Coast bid? Bottom line, low system overall seniority on a WB is bad spot when displacements are occurring.
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Old 04-30-2015 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
Perhaps but what will the guys bumped off the bus or 737 West Coast bid? Bottom line, low system overall seniority on a WB is bad spot when displacements are occurring.
The Company will need to replace every single CA that downgrades to FO. Once this IAH bump is finalized there will be a large CA bid to replace them. The new CAs will more than likely come out of the senior wide body FO ranks on the west coast. They are displacing the IAH pilots to better staff the SFO/LAX bases, so that is where the new upgrades are going to go. If I were running the show I'd run the wide body seats fat, one large upgrade to the west coast will take care of the overstaffing problem.

Also we have not seen a wide body retirement bid yet. That usually happens in the fall. I haven't seen a 777 CA bid in a long time.

The only seats I can see secondary's off of is IAH 320 if every pilot elects that mission, and the 756/76t if more than 50ish take that mission. All other bases will most likely be safe.
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Old 04-30-2015 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
Perhaps but what will the guys bumped off the bus or 737 West Coast bid? Bottom line, low system overall seniority on a WB is bad spot when displacements are occurring.
Not sure there will be anyone displaced off the west coast 737 or the IAH 320. Both are predicted to grow. It is really only 200 guys out of 12000 in an airline that is growing. We will find out this fall.
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Old 04-30-2015 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
The Company will need to replace every single CA that downgrades to FO. Once this IAH bump is finalized there will be a large CA bid to replace them. The new CAs will more than likely come out of the senior wide body FO ranks on the west coast. They are displacing the IAH pilots to better staff the SFO/LAX bases, so that is where the new upgrades are going to go. If I were running the show I'd run the wide body seats fat, one large upgrade to the west coast will take care of the overstaffing problem.

Also we have not seen a wide body retirement bid yet. That usually happens in the fall. I haven't seen a 777 CA bid in a long time.

The only seats I can see secondary's off of is IAH 320 if every pilot elects that mission, and the 756/76t if more than 50ish take that mission. All other bases will most likely be safe.
Thought we had 777 and 787 captain bids in feb.
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Old 04-30-2015 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeves
Not sure there will be anyone displaced off the west coast 737 or the IAH 320. Both are predicted to grow. It is really only 200 guys out of 12000 in an airline that is growing. We will find out this fall.
I certainly hope you are right, but history has shown this manpower group can't manage a paper bag.
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Old 04-30-2015 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by intrepidcv11
I certainly hope you are right, but history has shown this manpower group can't manage a paper bag.
I think Herve may be surprisingly competent.
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Old 04-30-2015 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Birddog
I think Herve may be surprisingly competent.
Good god, I hope so. If you want to balance manpower, you have to be bold. Not wussyfoot like Papaleo. If people don't bump where you want....secondary and tertiary their arses. Giter done!
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