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Winston 07-16-2015 07:57 PM
Throwback Thursday:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sCmvIsfXATA

49er 07-16-2015 07:58 PM
I just did my interview sim in the Link Trainer that's on the second floor near the CBT room. I had to do the PAR 31 at Idlewild followed by a raw data NDB-A... free tip to future interviewees... Don't forget to turn on the carb heat and close the cowl flaps on descent.

oldmako 07-17-2015 06:14 AM
Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1931278)
Actually, the word was they lost money for decades doing contract training. The bean counters weren't counting everything in the "cost" silo, and when they did throw everything in (Positive space 1st class to and from training) they discovered they were losing money.
Dunno Probe, but the head honcho told my (returning furlough) class that he had been tasked by Tilton to turn that facility into a money maker. He then rattled off numbers to show just how lucrative an operation it had become. Of course, things change.

cadetdrivr 07-17-2015 06:43 AM
Originally Posted by 49er (Post 1931404)
I just did my interview sim in the Link Trainer that's on the second floor near the CBT room. I had to do the PAR 31 at Idlewild followed by a raw data NDB-A... free tip to future interviewees... Don't forget to turn on the carb heat and close the cowl flaps on descent.
Well played.

:)

John Carr 07-17-2015 08:38 AM
Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1931278)
Actually, the word was they lost money for decades doing contract training. The bean counters weren't counting everything in the "cost" silo, and when they did throw everything in (Positive space 1st class to and from training) they discovered they were losing money.
Interesting, since it was like a bragging right/"profit center" in the pre 9/11 era.

tikicarver 07-17-2015 01:07 PM
Back in the 2000-01 hiring spree there was no sim.
An interview CA told me, "we know you guys can fly by looking at your background. Doesn't show us anything by putting you in an airplane you probably never flew and everyone takes the prep the night before anyway."

John Carr 07-17-2015 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by tikicarver (Post 1931884)
Back in the 2000-01 hiring spree there was no sim.
An interview CA told me, "we know you guys can fly by looking at your background. Doesn't show us anything by putting you in an airplane you probably never flew and everyone takes the prep the night before anyway."
Pretty sure that's incorrect. I don't remember them dropping that sim ride in that crappy twin engine piston sim that flew at jet speeds taking a alt/speed/heading/loc/GS data point snapshot every 6 seconds to score your performance in the basement of TK administered by an intern pre 9/11.

Fast forward to the 2007-2008 L-UAL hiring, pretty sure that's when there was no sim ride.

L-CAL was using the sim ride at that time.

ugleeual 07-17-2015 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1931888)
Pretty sure that's incorrect. I don't remember them dropping that sim ride in that crappy twin engine piston sim that flew at jet speeds taking a alt/speed/heading/loc/GS data point snapshot every 6 seconds to score your performance in the basement of TK administered by an intern pre 9/11.

Fast forward to the 2007-2008 L-UAL hiring, pretty sure that's when there was no sim ride.

L-CAL was using the sim ride at that time.
I interviewed December 1999 and was one of the first groups not to have to do the DC10 sim... Biggest mistake they ever made...

John Carr 07-17-2015 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 1931912)
I interviewed December 1999 and was one of the first groups not to have to do the DC10 sim... Biggest mistake they ever made...
Crap, is that when they switched to the MF'n-10? My mistake, but I'm pretty sure there was still a sim ride all the way to the cessation of hiring in 2001.

rwthompson67 07-17-2015 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1931922)
Crap, is that when they switched to the MF'n-10? My mistake, but I'm pretty sure there was still a sim ride all the way to the cessation of hiring in 2001.
Nope, interviewed June '00 and a sim ride was not part of the process in any way.


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