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Old 08-03-2015 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston
but I'll just say: don't judge a book by its first chapter.
True dat! Or maybe just don't judge!!!
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Old 08-04-2015 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LibertyPilot
DAL would be good, but I don't want to wait through the whole seniority list to get an interview with DAL. Do guys over there get interviews out of seniority?

Also, I think that the UAL culture might be a better fit for me. My plan for the regionals would be to get in and out as fast as possible. I would already be coming in with ample PIC jet and total time flying heavy business jets. So my hope would be that getting recent 121 experience would help my chances significantly at any of the Legacy carriers.
What's a "heavy" business jet?
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Old 08-04-2015 | 03:44 AM
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Not judging you, I shouldn't have written that comment. I meant to just highlight how crappy the regional pay for new hires is.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JerkStore
What's a "heavy" business jet?
Generally speaking, that phrase is typically refers to long-range, large-cabin business jets in the Challenger, Global, Gulfstream, Falcon 900, etc. families.

Not "heavy" in the ICAO >300k MTOW sense, but "heavy" given typical aircraft in that segment.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 04:20 AM
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Thanks. Interesting to know.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by LibertyPilot
Awesome thanks! I'm guessing that the number of guys hired 91/135 is less than 1%. Not very good odds......also, why does UAL not hire From Endeavor?
Actually, it looks like if you add up the civilian pie chart, the total is 92%. So 91/135 could be the 8% that is not listed, or at least part of it.

I don't think the airline has any problem with direct entry from 91/135. It may be that not many of those guys apply because they like their current career, or that those 91/135 folks don't fit the "profile" - college degree, etc.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SeamusTheHound
Actually, it looks like if you add up the civilian pie chart, the total is 92%. So 91/135 could be the 8% that is not listed, or at least part of it.

I don't think the airline has any problem with direct entry from 91/135. It may be that not many of those guys apply because they like their current career, or that those 91/135 folks don't fit the "profile" - college degree, etc.
True, although that is 8% of 70% hired so more like 5% of total pilots hired are not on that chart. I bet if you got the actual numbers the total percentage of new hires coming from 91/135 would be around 2.5-2%. Delta is definitely less than 1% and the head of hiring even chuckled at the mention of corporate pilots at the WAI conference. So I am very seriously considering going to a non legacy 121 carrier in order to improve my application and increase my chances.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 09:49 AM
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I was a pt 135 hire and didn't have any issues or have anybody tell me it was a bad thing. We had all types of backgrounds in my class as well. I made it through just fine. I'd say job fairs, volunteer work, and personality go a long way.


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Old 08-04-2015 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston
Well, here's a reason: got hired in 2003 at 27 from the CFI world, did indeed make crap pay year one, BUT... Doubled that year two, then upgraded and spent the "lost decade" making 6 figures, my last year clocking $147,000.

Have since moved on to a major, but I'll just say: don't judge a book by its first chapter.
wow, at what regional where you making $147,000?
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Old 08-05-2015 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LibertyPilot
True, although that is 8% of 70% hired so more like 5% of total pilots hired are not on that chart. I bet if you got the actual numbers the total percentage of new hires coming from 91/135 would be around 2.5-2%. Delta is definitely less than 1% and the head of hiring even chuckled at the mention of corporate pilots at the WAI conference. So I am very seriously considering going to a non legacy 121 carrier in order to improve my application and increase my chances.
If your numbers are correct, I wonder if the relatively low percentage of 91/135 pilots is reflective of the numbers that apply. I am under the impression most corporate guys are pretty happy and comfortable where they are.
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