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Shifty 09-04-2015 06:20 AM

Guam shutdown
 
Rut roh!

United To Relocate Guam-Based Pilots
The Guam Daily Post (9/4, Stole) reports United Airlines will be transferring its pilots stationed on Guam to “other airline bases in the U.S. in October because of discontinued flight service from Guam,” though no pilots will “lose their jobs because of the reduction in service to/from Guam.” The piece briefly quotes Dave Kelly, senior communications specialist for the United Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association, “Manning and staffing issues are rather delicate, and the company and ALPA tend to treat those matters as internal.” United officials said the airline is ending its service to Guam because “financial performance did not meet our expectations.”

Larry in TN 09-04-2015 06:22 AM

1 Capt and 1 F/O are being displaced from Guam.

oldmako 09-04-2015 06:34 AM

1. There goes the IAD 777 seven-day Pacific odyssey!
2. Here comes DAL.
3. Bye-bye snakes.
4. Less weight on the island might affect its stability issues as the islands overall displacement is reduced. They may have to adjust CG.
5. Increased buoyancy ought to lower sea levels, not just on Guam, but worldwide.

freezingflyboy 09-04-2015 06:50 AM

Is this for sure a done deal? I've got two questions:

- I thought GUM specifically and the Pacific in general were a big money maker for United. What happened?

- Shutting the base down in October? Seems rather short notice to close and displace an entire hub, route structure and crew base.

Thought of another question:
-Any predictions on what the shuffle is going to look like seniority-wise?

MasterOfPuppets 09-04-2015 07:00 AM

This is a newspaper getting hold of some information and going nuts with it. UA has already announced a small number of displacements from GUM because we are discontinuing 4-5 routes permanently because they weren't making money.

UA is actually in the process of refreshing the GUM 737 fleet. They are rotating out the old 737 and rotating in new ones(still old but new to GUM). They are retrofitting those aircraft with a new cabin and slimline seats specifically for the GUM operation.

This newspaper is way out in left field. They are correct no pilot will lose their job, UA is discontinuing unprofitable routes and some pilots will be displaced.

God help them if they had seen what happened to DEN, SEA, LAX and IAH!

freezingflyboy 09-04-2015 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 1963873)
This is a newspaper getting hold of some information and going nuts with it. UA has already announced a small number of displacements from GUM because we are discontinuing 4-5 routes permanently because they weren't making money.

UA is actually in the process of refreshing the GUM 737 fleet. They are rotating out the old 737 and rotating in new ones(still old but new to GUM). They are retrofitting those aircraft with a new cabin and slimline seats specifically for the GUM operation.

This newspaper is way out in left field. They are correct no pilot will lose their job, UA is discontinuing unprofitable routes and some pilots will be displaced.

God help them if they had seen what happened to DEN, SEA, LAX and IAH!

Agreed. Went and dug up the article. Seems like a "journalist" blowing a couple of route cuts into a full-blown "shut down". Ho-hum. Just more drive-by journalism. Never let facts get in the way of a good story.

Article here

cadetdrivr 09-04-2015 08:43 AM

FWIW....
September 4, 2015

Dear United Pilots:

This morning's ALPA Daily aviation news feed led off with a news article from the Guam Daily Post titled, "United to Relocate Guam-Based Pilots." The article contains gross exaggerations and gave the misimpression that United is closing the Guam base. To be clear, there is no indication of closing the Guam base.

The System Schedule Committee has been in discussions with the company for a while on what the company perceives as reserve overstaffing in Guam and the recent cancellation of two routes out of Guam. The company believes they are slightly overstaffed, however, no additional displacements have been mentioned by the company as of this date.

While some Guam-based pilots will be relocated because of flight cutbacks to Guam, United will continue to have a presence in Guam, and pilots will continue to be based there represented by ALPA Council 173. Please be assured if Guam or any base was notified by the company of any plans for closure, ALPA would be sure to notify the pilots immediately.

We're sorry that this news story has created unnecessary stress and concern to those who would be impacted if such a closing were to occur. Additionally, ALPA National has been asked to review such sensationalized articles with the MEC before publishing.

Fraternally,

Captain Jay Heppner
Chairman, United Master Executive Council

APC225 09-04-2015 08:44 AM

September 4, 2015

Dear United Pilots:

This morning's ALPA Daily aviation news feed led off with a news article from the Guam Daily Post titled, "United to Relocate Guam-Based Pilots." The article contains gross exaggerations and gave the misimpression that United is closing the Guam base. To be clear, there is no indication of closing the Guam base.

The System Schedule Committee has been in discussions with the company for a while on what the company perceives as reserve overstaffing in Guam and the recent cancellation of two routes out of Guam. The company believes they are slightly overstaffed, however, no additional displacements have been mentioned by the company as of this date.

While some Guam-based pilots will be relocated because of flight cutbacks to Guam, United will continue to have a presence in Guam, and pilots will continue to be based there represented by ALPA Council 173. Please be assured if Guam or any base was notified by the company of any plans for closure, ALPA would be sure to notify the pilots immediately.

We're sorry that this news story has created unnecessary stress and concern to those who would be impacted if such a closing were to occur. Additionally, ALPA National has been asked to review such sensationalized articles with the MEC before publishing.

Fraternally,

intrepidcv11 09-04-2015 11:28 AM

Ah yeah guys, I recommend looking at the top five articles on a daily basis for the Marinas Variety and Pacific Daily News. Any chance a reporter out there gets to not write about a machete incident or distribution of tax refunds from 3 years ago will cause he/she to crank up the journalistic interpretation.

oldmako 09-04-2015 01:04 PM

I salut your healthy dose of pessimism! Unfortunately, its not unfounded.


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