Guam shutdown
09-04-2015 | 06:20 AM
#1
Thread Starter
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 147
Likes: 0
From: B757 clear left.
Guam shutdown
Rut roh!
United To Relocate Guam-Based Pilots
The Guam Daily Post (9/4, Stole) reports United Airlines will be transferring its pilots stationed on Guam to “other airline bases in the U.S. in October because of discontinued flight service from Guam,” though no pilots will “lose their jobs because of the reduction in service to/from Guam.” The piece briefly quotes Dave Kelly, senior communications specialist for the United Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association, “Manning and staffing issues are rather delicate, and the company and ALPA tend to treat those matters as internal.” United officials said the airline is ending its service to Guam because “financial performance did not meet our expectations.”
United To Relocate Guam-Based Pilots
The Guam Daily Post (9/4, Stole) reports United Airlines will be transferring its pilots stationed on Guam to “other airline bases in the U.S. in October because of discontinued flight service from Guam,” though no pilots will “lose their jobs because of the reduction in service to/from Guam.” The piece briefly quotes Dave Kelly, senior communications specialist for the United Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association, “Manning and staffing issues are rather delicate, and the company and ALPA tend to treat those matters as internal.” United officials said the airline is ending its service to Guam because “financial performance did not meet our expectations.”
09-04-2015 | 06:34 AM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,076
Likes: 3
From: The GF of FUPM
1. There goes the IAD 777 seven-day Pacific odyssey!
2. Here comes DAL.
3. Bye-bye snakes.
4. Less weight on the island might affect its stability issues as the islands overall displacement is reduced. They may have to adjust CG.
5. Increased buoyancy ought to lower sea levels, not just on Guam, but worldwide.
2. Here comes DAL.
3. Bye-bye snakes.
4. Less weight on the island might affect its stability issues as the islands overall displacement is reduced. They may have to adjust CG.
5. Increased buoyancy ought to lower sea levels, not just on Guam, but worldwide.
Last edited by oldmako; 09-04-2015 at 06:46 AM.
09-04-2015 | 06:50 AM
#4
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Likes: 20
From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
Is this for sure a done deal? I've got two questions:
- I thought GUM specifically and the Pacific in general were a big money maker for United. What happened?
- Shutting the base down in October? Seems rather short notice to close and displace an entire hub, route structure and crew base.
Thought of another question:
-Any predictions on what the shuffle is going to look like seniority-wise?
- I thought GUM specifically and the Pacific in general were a big money maker for United. What happened?
- Shutting the base down in October? Seems rather short notice to close and displace an entire hub, route structure and crew base.
Thought of another question:
-Any predictions on what the shuffle is going to look like seniority-wise?
09-04-2015 | 07:00 AM
#5
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 3,599
Likes: 205
From: 787
This is a newspaper getting hold of some information and going nuts with it. UA has already announced a small number of displacements from GUM because we are discontinuing 4-5 routes permanently because they weren't making money.
UA is actually in the process of refreshing the GUM 737 fleet. They are rotating out the old 737 and rotating in new ones(still old but new to GUM). They are retrofitting those aircraft with a new cabin and slimline seats specifically for the GUM operation.
This newspaper is way out in left field. They are correct no pilot will lose their job, UA is discontinuing unprofitable routes and some pilots will be displaced.
God help them if they had seen what happened to DEN, SEA, LAX and IAH!
UA is actually in the process of refreshing the GUM 737 fleet. They are rotating out the old 737 and rotating in new ones(still old but new to GUM). They are retrofitting those aircraft with a new cabin and slimline seats specifically for the GUM operation.
This newspaper is way out in left field. They are correct no pilot will lose their job, UA is discontinuing unprofitable routes and some pilots will be displaced.
God help them if they had seen what happened to DEN, SEA, LAX and IAH!
09-04-2015 | 07:18 AM
#6
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,047
Likes: 20
From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
This is a newspaper getting hold of some information and going nuts with it. UA has already announced a small number of displacements from GUM because we are discontinuing 4-5 routes permanently because they weren't making money.
UA is actually in the process of refreshing the GUM 737 fleet. They are rotating out the old 737 and rotating in new ones(still old but new to GUM). They are retrofitting those aircraft with a new cabin and slimline seats specifically for the GUM operation.
This newspaper is way out in left field. They are correct no pilot will lose their job, UA is discontinuing unprofitable routes and some pilots will be displaced.
God help them if they had seen what happened to DEN, SEA, LAX and IAH!
UA is actually in the process of refreshing the GUM 737 fleet. They are rotating out the old 737 and rotating in new ones(still old but new to GUM). They are retrofitting those aircraft with a new cabin and slimline seats specifically for the GUM operation.
This newspaper is way out in left field. They are correct no pilot will lose their job, UA is discontinuing unprofitable routes and some pilots will be displaced.
God help them if they had seen what happened to DEN, SEA, LAX and IAH!
Article here
Last edited by freezingflyboy; 09-04-2015 at 07:44 AM. Reason: Added link
09-04-2015 | 08:43 AM
#7
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,639
Likes: 0
FWIW....
September 4, 2015
Dear United Pilots:
This morning's ALPA Daily aviation news feed led off with a news article from the Guam Daily Post titled, "United to Relocate Guam-Based Pilots." The article contains gross exaggerations and gave the misimpression that United is closing the Guam base. To be clear, there is no indication of closing the Guam base.
The System Schedule Committee has been in discussions with the company for a while on what the company perceives as reserve overstaffing in Guam and the recent cancellation of two routes out of Guam. The company believes they are slightly overstaffed, however, no additional displacements have been mentioned by the company as of this date.
While some Guam-based pilots will be relocated because of flight cutbacks to Guam, United will continue to have a presence in Guam, and pilots will continue to be based there represented by ALPA Council 173. Please be assured if Guam or any base was notified by the company of any plans for closure, ALPA would be sure to notify the pilots immediately.
We're sorry that this news story has created unnecessary stress and concern to those who would be impacted if such a closing were to occur. Additionally, ALPA National has been asked to review such sensationalized articles with the MEC before publishing.
Fraternally,
Captain Jay Heppner
Chairman, United Master Executive Council
Dear United Pilots:
This morning's ALPA Daily aviation news feed led off with a news article from the Guam Daily Post titled, "United to Relocate Guam-Based Pilots." The article contains gross exaggerations and gave the misimpression that United is closing the Guam base. To be clear, there is no indication of closing the Guam base.
The System Schedule Committee has been in discussions with the company for a while on what the company perceives as reserve overstaffing in Guam and the recent cancellation of two routes out of Guam. The company believes they are slightly overstaffed, however, no additional displacements have been mentioned by the company as of this date.
While some Guam-based pilots will be relocated because of flight cutbacks to Guam, United will continue to have a presence in Guam, and pilots will continue to be based there represented by ALPA Council 173. Please be assured if Guam or any base was notified by the company of any plans for closure, ALPA would be sure to notify the pilots immediately.
We're sorry that this news story has created unnecessary stress and concern to those who would be impacted if such a closing were to occur. Additionally, ALPA National has been asked to review such sensationalized articles with the MEC before publishing.
Fraternally,
Captain Jay Heppner
Chairman, United Master Executive Council
09-04-2015 | 08:44 AM
#8
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,866
Likes: 0
September 4, 2015
Dear United Pilots:
This morning's ALPA Daily aviation news feed led off with a news article from the Guam Daily Post titled, "United to Relocate Guam-Based Pilots." The article contains gross exaggerations and gave the misimpression that United is closing the Guam base. To be clear, there is no indication of closing the Guam base.
The System Schedule Committee has been in discussions with the company for a while on what the company perceives as reserve overstaffing in Guam and the recent cancellation of two routes out of Guam. The company believes they are slightly overstaffed, however, no additional displacements have been mentioned by the company as of this date.
While some Guam-based pilots will be relocated because of flight cutbacks to Guam, United will continue to have a presence in Guam, and pilots will continue to be based there represented by ALPA Council 173. Please be assured if Guam or any base was notified by the company of any plans for closure, ALPA would be sure to notify the pilots immediately.
We're sorry that this news story has created unnecessary stress and concern to those who would be impacted if such a closing were to occur. Additionally, ALPA National has been asked to review such sensationalized articles with the MEC before publishing.
Fraternally,
Dear United Pilots:
This morning's ALPA Daily aviation news feed led off with a news article from the Guam Daily Post titled, "United to Relocate Guam-Based Pilots." The article contains gross exaggerations and gave the misimpression that United is closing the Guam base. To be clear, there is no indication of closing the Guam base.
The System Schedule Committee has been in discussions with the company for a while on what the company perceives as reserve overstaffing in Guam and the recent cancellation of two routes out of Guam. The company believes they are slightly overstaffed, however, no additional displacements have been mentioned by the company as of this date.
While some Guam-based pilots will be relocated because of flight cutbacks to Guam, United will continue to have a presence in Guam, and pilots will continue to be based there represented by ALPA Council 173. Please be assured if Guam or any base was notified by the company of any plans for closure, ALPA would be sure to notify the pilots immediately.
We're sorry that this news story has created unnecessary stress and concern to those who would be impacted if such a closing were to occur. Additionally, ALPA National has been asked to review such sensationalized articles with the MEC before publishing.
Fraternally,
09-04-2015 | 11:28 AM
#9
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,253
Likes: 0
Ah yeah guys, I recommend looking at the top five articles on a daily basis for the Marinas Variety and Pacific Daily News. Any chance a reporter out there gets to not write about a machete incident or distribution of tax refunds from 3 years ago will cause he/she to crank up the journalistic interpretation.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
