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Dave Fitzgerald 09-17-2015 10:32 PM

If UAL buys JetBlue, I'll bet we could use their upper and middle management and all of their IT infrastructure. Just like....oh...we did that one....never mind.

(Nothing against JetBlue, we just suck, and have for years...)

NFLUALNFL 09-18-2015 05:51 AM

If you were hired at CAL in '07......

full of luv 09-18-2015 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 1973837)
I highly doubt UAL will go through another merger.

I see the 25 used A319s coming faster than original planned an order for 50 A321 Neos and
An order for 100-125 CS 100 and 300 series , cheap deal by the Canadians

And a few more 777-300s since they are cheap for now

Close to 985 or so total frames by 2020 with close to 250 WBs total

375... 737s
250 A319, 320,321,350s
51 767s
62 757s
10 747
50 787s
85 777s
100 C series Canadian

Are the C series going to be operated by mainline?

cadetdrivr 09-18-2015 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 1973969)
Are the C series going to be operated by mainline?

Any potential E190/C-Series airframe will be operated by mainline---unless we lose our minds (again) and grant some sort of scope relief.

(Note that the quoted fleet plan above is conjecture/rumor and not anything that has been publicly released.)

Firsttimeflyer 09-18-2015 03:27 PM

Expect the 747 to retire as the 350 comes on line. I sure hope not but that is what I would expect.

The C series is a win-win on mainline property. RJ guys get hired at mainline, most likely start on that aircraft, quick upgrade if wanted, good protection for more senior FOs, option to bid captain if wanted (most likely a pay cut depending on which right seat at longevity) but QOL for living in base might be worth it. I hope we get them if that is the aircraft that will make us money and bring flying back to mainline.

Probe 09-18-2015 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 1973837)
I highly doubt UAL will go through another merger.

I see the 25 used A319s coming faster than original planned an order for 50 A321 Neos and
An order for 100-125 CS 100 and 300 series , cheap deal by the Canadians

And a few more 777-300s since they are cheap for now

Close to 985 or so total frames by 2020 with close to 250 WBs total

375... 737s
250 A319, 320,321,350s
51 767s
62 757s
10 747
50 787s
85 777s
100 C series Canadian


It is a lot cheaper to buy your competition, than fight and compete with them. Plus, management gets to give themselves massive bonuses, and gold parachutes, or both. You can't give yourself a big bonus just by growing.

I would put my money on Alaska as our next target, and Delta would go after Hawaiin. Just a guess. I wouldn't put any money on it.

oldmako 09-18-2015 04:34 PM

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Your vapors are showing.

Sniper66 09-18-2015 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Probe (Post 1974389)
It is a lot cheaper to buy your competition, than fight and compete with them. Plus, management gets to give themselves massive bonuses, and gold parachutes, or both. You can't give yourself a big bonus just by growing.

I would put my money on Alaska as our next target, and Delta would go after Hawaiin. Just a guess. I wouldn't put any money on it.



You can't touch Alaska ! Way too expensive , check their market cap , American would have made a move if Alaska was available but no cigar there !!!

Hilltopper89 09-19-2015 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 1974573)
You can't touch Alaska ! Way too expensive , check their market cap , American would have made a move if Alaska was available but no cigar there !!!

I doubt this will happen (at least not with UAL) but 10B is not a huge market cap. UAL, DAL, And AAL are 22, 32, and 29B respectively.

82spukram 09-19-2015 05:50 AM

The only airlines JetBlue can merge with would be :southwest, Alaska, Hawaiian, spirt, frontier, virgin America.

The DOJ is already investigating DAL, UAL, AAL for price fixing. A low cost carrier is not going to be sucked up by another carrier who is just going to raise its fares. I use to work for Jetblue. I think the only airline to buy them is Southwest. That said under the PEA (which is in place until a CBA is voted in) allows Jetblue to sell up to 1/3 of the fleet without triggering a transactional event which means they could dump the 190's to UAL over 2-3 years while taking 320 deliveries. But once again New York and Massachusetts will not allow the only LLC with a strong northeast presence to be bought and raise fares for the voters.


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