Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   United (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/)
-   -   Munoz' Only Chance (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/united/91197-munoz-only-chance.html)

Mitch Rapp05 10-14-2015 11:09 AM

Munoz' Only Chance
 
Regardless of your views of on the UPA extension, I think we are going to quickly see the "color" of Oscar's stripes. If he plays the same games as the last guy in "negotiations" then we know it will be the same thing as we've had for the last few years. This is a PERFECT opportunity for Oscar to set the tone and show whether he's in the mold of Gordon or El Jeffe.

UALinIAH 10-14-2015 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05 (Post 1992448)
Regardless of your views of on the UPA extension, I think we are going to quickly see the "color" of Oscar's stripes. If he plays the same games as the last guy in "negotiations" then we know it will be the same thing as we've had for the last few years. This is a PERFECT opportunity for Oscar to set the tone and show whether he's in the mold of Gordon or El Jeffe.

Problem is that it's still the exact same management team in place below him. I'll wait and see what the NC comes up with, but I'm not betting much has changed.

Mitch Rapp05 10-14-2015 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 1992455)
Problem is that it's still the exact same management team in place below him. I'll wait and see what the NC comes up with, but I'm not betting much has changed.

Yes, same management team but different guy at the top. If he's a true leader then we will see a difference. Otherwise it will be the same song and dance. I'm cautiously optimistic but has been through this enough times before to not be naive.

syd111 10-14-2015 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 1992455)
Problem is that it's still the exact same management team in place below him. I'll wait and see what the NC comes up with, but I'm not betting much has changed.

Thank you! I can't believe that nobody else is mentioning this fact. Nothing has changed.

gettinbumped 10-14-2015 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp05 (Post 1992467)
Yes, same management team but different guy at the top. If he's a true leader then we will see a difference. Otherwise it will be the same song and dance. I'm cautiously optimistic but has been through this enough times before to not be naive.

Think you've hit the nail on the head here Mitch. We will see. Here's to hoping he's going to be a true leader in every sense of the word. We could sure use one around here....

gettinbumped 10-14-2015 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by syd111 (Post 1992492)
Thank you! I can't believe that nobody else is mentioning this fact. Nothing has changed.

That's like suggesting that a head coaching change can't effect a football team's performance. I'll be interested to see if there are further changes in upper management as Munoz settles in

UALinIAH 10-14-2015 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1992497)
That's like suggesting that a head coaching change can't effect a football team's performance. I'll be interested to see if there are further changes in upper management as Munoz settles in

Not very often does a new head coach keep the entire staff from the previous coach and manage to turn the team around.

I really hope you're right, but after 20+ yrs with UAL, history is telling me to not get too excited. I hope that "this time it's different". I keep saying I'll reserve judgement until we hear from the NC/MEC.

Firsttimeflyer 10-14-2015 01:42 PM

Why wouldn't we be able to go to Auckland or tel aviv?

AllenAllert 10-14-2015 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Thor (Post 1992532)
You guys are dreamers. Oscar said he needed 90 days to visit around the system and get a clue about how to run United. His start date, September 8th, + 90 days is December 7th. The contract extension deadline is November 20th, so, the new boss won't have even completed his initial uptake by then.

The cynic in me says this is a last ditch effort by flight ops management to patch past mismanagement before they have to explain to the new boss why United can't fly to Aukland or Tel Aviv. I'd be shocked if Oscar was involved in, or even aware of, current pilot negotiations.

Good Post -

syd111 10-14-2015 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by gettinbumped (Post 1992497)
That's like suggesting that a head coaching change can't effect a football team's performance. I'll be interested to see if there are further changes in upper management as Munoz settles in

Well keep believing and keep selling. I'll wait for the change, you can jump for the first thing they throw your way.

By the way normally when their is a head coaching change it is quickly followed by a defensive, offensive, special team change and a bunch of others.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:13 PM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands