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Old 01-21-2016 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Learjet driver
I have heard the union say over and over that our profit sharing is almost identical to Delta's. If we made the same money we would make the same profit sharing. Well Delta made 4.5 Billion in 2014 and they received a profit sharing check between 16-17%. We made 4.5 billion in 2015 so it seems reasonable to think that our profit sharing should be almost exactly the same payout that Delta received last year.
Your mixing apples and oranges.

Delta earned $7.157B last year before taxes. United earned $4.219B before taxes.

Delta had $4.526B net income after non recurring $2.631B tax PROVISION; after non-recurring $3B+ tax BENEFIT, United earned $7.340B net income.


Read 3-H-3. It clearly states profit sharing is based on PRE-TAX profit. We weren't close to DAL on pre-tax numbers.
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Old 01-21-2016 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Learjet driver
I have heard the union say over and over that our profit sharing is almost identical to Delta's. If we made the same money we would make the same profit sharing. Well Delta made 4.5 Billion in 2014 and they received a profit sharing check between 16-17%. We made 4.5 billion in 2015 so it seems reasonable to think that our profit sharing should be almost exactly the same payout that Delta received last year.
You are not using the right numbers. You need to look at pretax income minus special charges. You will see they made a lot more profit than we did.
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Old 01-21-2016 | 05:28 AM
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UAL has 4,000 more employees who are paid 11% more so the denominator is higher and DAL's contribution goes from 10% to 20% at $2.5B while UAL is around $2.7B.
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Old 01-21-2016 | 06:03 AM
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How many new pilots for 40 737?
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Old 01-21-2016 | 06:07 AM
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Most airlines staff at about 5.5 crews per airplane, so:

5.5 x 2 = 11
11 x 40 = 440

I think that would be a good ballpark. Of course you have to subtract any airplanes deleted from the fleet plan during the same period.
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Old 01-21-2016 | 08:12 AM
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I don't understand why these 40 orders weren't 757's. It's such a better aircraft, faster, long legs, big jugs! Think of all the cargo we're leaving behind! I don't think UAL management has even considered these things. I'll put on my Cap't hat and old legacy wings and waddle my all knowing old fat a** over to the Sears Tower to tell them......maybe I'll just have my f/o send an acars
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Old 01-21-2016 | 08:27 AM
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Every 737-900ER that replaces a 757 saves $2M annually. Blocked seats on select routes notwithstanding, it's all about $.
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Old 01-21-2016 | 08:41 AM
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Every 737-900ER that replaces a 757 saves $2M annually. Blocked seats on select routes notwithstanding, it's all about $.
Break that down for us.
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Old 01-21-2016 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 130drvr
Every 737-900ER that replaces a 757 saves $2M annually. Blocked seats on select routes notwithstanding, it's all about $.
What flavor koolaid they serving? How's $30/bbl oil fit in that metric? I've got a PS payout that a fat-guppy leaving 20 pax going to Denver loses money and good will to a full 57 every time.
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Old 01-21-2016 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimmykool
I don't understand why these 40 orders weren't 757's. It's such a better aircraft, faster, long legs, big jugs! Think of all the cargo we're leaving behind! I don't think UAL management has even considered these things. I'll put on my Cap't hat and old legacy wings and waddle my all knowing old fat a** over to the Sears Tower to tell them......maybe I'll just have my f/o send an acars
Man, I hope that's satire.

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