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bkC130 02-20-2016 11:44 AM

8 March Indoc
 


Thread to get some of our 16 classmates for the 8 March start in touch a few weeks out. Retiring USAF dude. 41 yrs 5 mos. Leaning A319/320 if it's avail.
Cheers, BK
p.s. Have any of you gotten even a breakdown of equipment slots? Full info package from yesterday had nothing and the original email just listed 737 & 320 without numbers...

C-17 Driver 02-20-2016 01:26 PM

Just bring a healthy liver.

Air1980 02-20-2016 01:32 PM

Also in the March 8th class. All civilian, most recently instructor on the B747-400 for an ACMI outfit. 35 yrs and 11 months. Am also curious about the chance of other a/c besides A320/B737 and if anyone has heard anything.....

UALinIAH 02-20-2016 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Air1980 (Post 2072305)
Also in the March 8th class. All civilian, most recently instructor on the B747-400 for an ACMI outfit. 35 yrs and 11 months. Am also curious about the chance of other a/c besides A320/B737 and if anyone has heard anything.....

Congrats on the job, as far as anything but the Bus or Guppy I'd say extremely unlikely. I don't recall any unfilled vacancies on them. The company can only put new hires in seats that current pilots have passed on.

Pro2nd 02-20-2016 02:33 PM

EWR 756 had 35 or so unfilled vacancies on the last bid. It's likely there will be a few slots in each class for a couple months.

UALinIAH 02-20-2016 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Pro2nd (Post 2072332)
EWR 756 had 35 or so unfilled vacancies on the last bid. It's likely there will be a few slots in each class for a couple months.

Wow I somehow missed that. Guess 756 EWR flying is just that bad? I get that the 757-200 pays the same as the guppy but surprised that I missed it.

FlyHIGHgoFAST 02-20-2016 03:18 PM

There is going to be a new vacancy bid open on Monday (per the Upfront news) that will include "mainly A320 Capts and FO slots on the 737, A320, and 756."...I would imagine any unfilled vacancies and open slots from movement on this bid will be what the March 8 class will get. Just a guess, but as stated above there were plenty of unfilled vacancies in all categories so you guys/gals should have some great choices! Welcome aboard!

reelbigchair 02-20-2016 08:09 PM

It's not the flying that's bad... Ewr 756 is great flying, just most people want to be based elsewhere... In the not too distant past there's been unfilled IAD as well.


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Pro2nd 02-21-2016 05:14 AM

Agreed, the flying on the 756 is great. I love the variety. Hawaii one week, Europe the next! Lots of easy domestic trans cons if that's your thing. I won't get into global reserve rules, but I suspect that's the reason it's going so junior. Expect a long time on reserve though. I'm over a year on property on the EWR 756 and still below the g line. With the closing of the 76t I keep moving further and further from a line. If you live close enough to sit short call at home, your QOL on reserve increases significantly.
Anyway, welcome aboard! This is a great company to make a career at and at a fantastic time! Lots of quick seniority coming your way!

ahorsens 02-21-2016 06:01 AM

8 March as well & can't wait. USAF guy, 41 years 8 mos. Leaning toward 737, but am beyond excited to get going & meet everyone.

Quick (possibly dumb) question-attire for Basic Indoc? Letter mentioned business casual, but thought I'd read elsewhere it's mostly jeans. Any suggestions/unwritten gouge?

Pro2nd 02-21-2016 06:35 AM

Kakkies and a dress shirt were the norm in indoc. I didn't see jeans start to appear until sim training.

Air1980 02-21-2016 07:44 AM

Thanks for the information everyone - looks like we will have some interesting choices to make. I plan on relocating to the NY/NJ area so I guess I'll be bidding EWR...in whatever I can hold....!

worstpilotever 02-21-2016 08:42 AM

If there are any folks of British descent in your class, use caution....they tend to drink all the beer!

Welcome aboard everyone, you will enjoy class and the job!

Wear your pin!

bkC130 02-26-2016 03:54 AM

Bump: Thread to get some of our 16 classmates for the 8 March start in touch a few weeks out.

Griff89 02-29-2016 07:46 PM

8 March class as well. Super stoked, 50 yrs 2 mo.

AV82SKI 03-01-2016 06:58 AM

March training forecast is for 75 new hires. 36 A320 and 39 B737. Latest vacancy had unfilled vacancies - (from most vacancies to least)
737 SFO, LAX, EWR, ORD & DCA.
A320 SFO, DCA & EWR.

Latest update indicated newhire 756 positions could start up again in June. Current unfilled 756 vacancies are in EWR & SFO.

Choose wisely and welcome aboard.

SVA402 03-01-2016 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by AV82SKI (Post 2079319)
March training forecast is for 75 new hires. 36 A320 and 39 B737. Latest vacancy had unfilled vacancies - (from most vacancies to least)
737 SFO, LAX, EWR, ORD & DCA.
A320 SFO, DCA & EWR.

Latest update indicated newhire 756 positions could start up again in June. Current unfilled 756 vacancies are in EWR & SFO.

Choose wisely and welcome aboard.

4 756 positions offered to my newhire class on March 15th however I assume there are perhaps 4 or more recalls?

AV82SKI 03-01-2016 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by SVA402 (Post 2079324)
4 756 positions offered to my newhire class on March 15th however I assume there are perhaps 4 or more recalls?

Most likely recall guys. Today's plan isn't always tomorrow's plan around here. Get used to that. :)

The information I read said that no newhire 756 positions until all 76T pilots are converted to 756. The last base converted from 76T to 756 is scheduled for May. All summer flying will be done by the 756
fleet (76T category will no longer exist).

Andy 03-01-2016 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by AV82SKI (Post 2079319)
March training forecast is for 75 new hires. 36 A320 and 39 B737. Latest vacancy had unfilled vacancies - (from most vacancies to least)
737 SFO, LAX, EWR, ORD & DCA.
A320 SFO, DCA & EWR.

Latest update indicated newhire 756 positions could start up again in June. Current unfilled 756 vacancies are in EWR & SFO.

Choose wisely and welcome aboard.

On the 320 locations - I doubt there will be any EWR 320s (currently shrinking the 320 flying there); not sure that there will be any DCA 320s either from looking at 1605V.

The biggest trend that I'm seeing is that LAX and especially SFO are going very junior. Newhires can expect the bulk of initial assignments to be west coast 737s although there should be a reasonable number of EWR 737s. Not to worry, you should be able to lateral eastward fairly quickly.
Bottom line: if you're young (class picks are based on age), expect a SFO 737 or 320.

SVA402 03-01-2016 10:21 AM

8th March class guys... When did United send you an email with travel info and such?

Jetlink2Acey 03-01-2016 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by AV82SKI (Post 2079332)
Most likely recall guys. Today's plan isn't always tomorrow's plan around here. Get used to that. :)

The information I read said that no newhire 756 positions until all 76T pilots are converted to 756. The last base converted from 76T to 756 is scheduled for May. All summer flying will be done by the 756
fleet (76T category will no longer exist).

I've heard March/April because EWR is getting short and SFO is desperately short on FOs for the 756. A buddy of mine had 11 SCs in Feb.

worstpilotever 03-01-2016 02:40 PM

Being put on SC doesn't always mean short staffed. In fact if they are that short, your buddy would have no SC's because he would always be flying. When they are overstaffed they tend to hand out SCs like candy in my experience.

untied 03-02-2016 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Pro2nd (Post 2072594)
Agreed, the flying on the 756 is great. I love the variety. Hawaii one week, Europe the next! Lots of easy domestic trans cons if that's your thing. I won't get into global reserve rules, but I suspect that's the reason it's going so junior. Expect a long time on reserve though. I'm over a year on property on the EWR 756 and still below the g line. With the closing of the 76t I keep moving further and further from a line. If you live close enough to sit short call at home, your QOL on reserve increases significantly.
Anyway, welcome aboard! This is a great company to make a career at and at a fantastic time! Lots of quick seniority coming your way!

This made me laugh a little. "Expect a long time on reserve, I've been here over a year". :D

Not too long ago, 767 guys with 16 years longevity were still WAY below the G line.

How quickly things change!

Keep in mind, they can change back just as quick!

pilotgolfer 03-02-2016 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by untied (Post 2080282)
This made me laugh a little. "Expect a long time on reserve, I've been here over a year". :D

Not too long ago, 767 guys with 16 years longevity were still WAY below the G line.

How quickly things change!

Keep in mind, they can change back just as quick!

This might be the lucky generation of airline pilots that will go a long time period without experiencing a major contraction or furlough. Timing is everything and I think the millennials might have nailed it.

Terrain Inop 03-02-2016 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2080329)
This might be the lucky generation of airline pilots that will go a long time period without experiencing a major contraction or furlough. Timing is everything and I think the millennials might have nailed it.

Well, we are entitled to it. ;)

pilotgolfer 03-03-2016 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by Terrain Inop (Post 2080795)
Well, we are entitled to it. ;)

Good one...let me give you a trophy. :rolleyes:

Firsttimeflyer 03-03-2016 02:43 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2080912)
Good one...let me give you a trophy. :rolleyes:

As long as it says participation it is acceptable

bigfatdaddy 03-03-2016 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer (Post 2080914)
As long as it says participation it is acceptable

But first of all make sure that it is given in a "Safe Space" :rolleyes:

Firsttimeflyer 03-03-2016 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by bigfatdaddy (Post 2081315)
But first of all make sure that it is given in a "Safe Space" :rolleyes:

too funny!

SVA402 03-04-2016 02:17 PM

Does United offer zipper ties? I heard someone say they will pay for regular and clip-on ties but nothing else, does that mean that zippers are an available option for purchase or no?

UALfoLIFE 03-04-2016 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by SVA402 (Post 2082327)
Does United offer zipper ties? I heard someone say they will pay for regular and clip-on ties but nothing else, does that mean that zippers are an available option for purchase or no?

They are available, the company won't pay for them though.

ugleeual 03-04-2016 03:22 PM

Approximately 14 bucks at the uniform store or domicile... Work great.

ahorsens 03-06-2016 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by SVA402 (Post 2079492)
8th March class guys... When did United send you an email with travel info and such?

Feb 19th for me

Shifty 03-07-2016 02:01 PM

Final is out. Looks like 34 new hire slots on the B756. 18 in EWR 16 in SFO. 9 A320 in LAX. The rest is B737 EWR/SFO.

crflyer 03-07-2016 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Shifty (Post 2084097)
Final is out. Looks like 34 new hire slots on the B756. 18 in EWR 16 in SFO. 9 A320 in LAX. The rest is B737 EWR/SFO.

What classes would these be for and how many 737 does that leave?

MasterOfPuppets 03-07-2016 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by crflyer (Post 2084099)
What classes would these be for and how many 737 does that leave?

They can offer anyone of those slots tomorrow in the MAR 8TH class.

If you read between the lines of what Crew Planning put out it sounds like they want to have the airbus staffed by APR so I would expect all 320 slots until fall to be given out this month. Only SFO was left unfilled with 9 slots.

The company is still behind on 757/767 training with the final close out of the 76T fleet. I wouldn't expect more than 1-2 per class until late APR or MAY. SFO/EWR were the only unfilled, only 34 total.

There appears to be more than enough 737 slots to get us to JUL when the classes are supposed to stop. I wouldn't be surprised to see all 737 class drops. LAX/SFO/EWR were the only unfilled.

Davedave 03-10-2016 07:38 AM

How did the actual drop go down?

worstpilotever 03-10-2016 07:50 AM

Word on the street is all guppy's (ies?) split between EWR, LAX, and SFO.
God save the ball!

bkC130 03-13-2016 06:02 AM

Our 8 March class drop was almost identical to 1 March class. ...except they expedited those guys into the 16-05 vacancy bid that closed 3 March which allowed many to bid back east....very cool move IMHO. We were all 737s, like 1 Mar dropped, and it was 4 EWR, 7 SFO, 4 LAX....I nabbed the final EWR at #7/15 then all the LAX went followed by youngest 5 to SFO including our 26 yr old Ball (imagine what his 401k could look like in 2055?)
Next week's class will have a healthy dose of 756 with rest 737s....very few 320 forecast until Sept. Finally, we were briefed full classes Apr & May, only 2 classes in June and then no new hire classes until 6 Sept....although I'm told company had same goal last year to ratchet down for Summer line flying but added a few July & August starts. Week 1 was an absolute class act all around including 2 awesome facilitators....many smiling faces in our 8 March crew here. Cheers!

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Wafu3939 03-15-2016 12:28 AM

Any returning furloughed or LOA guys/gals in your class?


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