Delta Snap Up rumors.

Reply Subscribe

Page 2 of 2

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

03-10-2016 | 03:48 AM

#11

Justdoinmyjob

Looking for a laugh

Joined: Feb 2008

Posts: 4,099

Likes: 0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumble

The difference is here it goes to the seniority numbers at the top. At DAL it's divvied out more equitably. No one gets two green slips (Srm) until everyone on the list has at least been offered a chance.

Little more nuanced that that, you have to actually put a greenie in to be counted. But yes, no one can fly a second or subsequent until everyone with an active request in that is legal for the trip gets a shot at it. In 16 years @ the Borg mothership, I bid for days off because of kids, so they're not an option for me. Unless I can get a Green Slip with Conflict. Then, it's pay, no credit for the greenie, and credit pay for dropped trip. Normal greenies pay 2x pay, no credit for a line holder.

03-11-2016 | 06:50 AM

#12

MikeF16

Otto

Joined: Jul 2013

Posts: 1,806

Likes: 0

From: Turkish Pile Driver

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otters

I would humbly ask everyone to understand the meaning of
1. Green slips(both line holders and reserves)
2. Rolling thunder.
Just start with these two massive money making operations for DAL
Pilots and u learn about the ridiculous amount of money they can make. There will be no motivation to settle this anytime soon. Well past two years

I'm new at DAL bidding at about 77% and I was paid 165 hours in January and 143 in February. The problem with green slips is you have to fly them, I'm pretty worn out.

So what's up with the attempted takeover on your BoD? I don't understand how somebody with a 7% stake can leverage that into 6 of 15 seats.

03-11-2016 | 09:47 AM

#13

cadetdrivr

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Oct 2010

Posts: 2,639

Likes: 0

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeF16

I don't understand how somebody with a 7% stake can leverage that into 6 of 15 seats.

With 7% they can't.

But they can put it to a vote of all the other shareholders at the annual meeting in a few months. If they can convince 50.00001% of the total that they are gonna get more $$$ with their board takeover and plan....then it happens.

Meanwhile the existing board and executive management will be making many of the same strategic moves and stockholder overtures to retain control.

Either way, the hedgies get more money via larger stock buybacks, dividends, or increased stock price. They don't necessarily have to "win" to directly profit.

03-11-2016 | 11:45 AM

#14

Grumble

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Nov 2009

Posts: 5,508

Likes: 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrek

I think a couple SCAB's heads just EXPLODED after reading that post - LOL

Funny that scabs who stole their seniority numbers would get defensive about it.

03-31-2016 | 11:03 AM

#15

fadec

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Mar 2015

Posts: 963

Likes: 0

Quote:

Originally Posted by ugleeual

If Gordon Buffoon gets on the BOD then we can kiss any future pay raises or work rule improvements for the forseable future... That 16% raise looks like a better deal now more than ever.

13%. You have to compare what we have to what we would have had, not what we had. Verb tense gets complex, I know. But consider this: Had we voted NO we would have been having to continue this nonsense.

03-31-2016 | 12:25 PM

#16

APC225

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Feb 2011

Posts: 3,866

Likes: 0

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeF16

I'm new at DAL bidding at about 77% and I was paid 165 hours in January and 143 in February.

Sometimes I think my Delta envy comes from loose facts, urban legend, friend-of-a-friend distortions and bar bragging.

Then you have to go and post the truth.

And here I am hoping for another short call to get an hour of add pay.

03-31-2016 | 06:57 PM

#17

YAKflyer

Line Holder

Joined: Jan 2007

Posts: 440

Likes: 14

From: 30 West

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeF16

I'm new at DAL bidding at about 77% and I was paid 165 hours in January and 143 in February. The problem with green slips is you have to fly them, I'm pretty worn out.

I punched out of Delta in 2005 just before the bankruptcy. In 2004 & 05 Delta had 1500 captains retire in advance of the bankruptcy creating a staffing problem that the training department could never keep up with. I flew more hours in 2004 than any other year of my career and got to the point I was turning down greenslips that paid $15K for four days because I was just sick and tired of flying.

Gerald Grinstein was the CEO at the time and donated 100% his salary to an employee relief fund, but let's just say I made more money in '04 than he donated.

04-02-2016 | 06:07 PM

#18

luv757

Line Holder

Joined: Aug 2005

Posts: 534

Likes: 15

From: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shrek

I think a couple SCAB's heads just EXPLODED after reading that post - LOL

Good. A few more dead scabs. Just need to get the clown suits.

04-02-2016 | 10:01 PM

#19

Shrek

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Aug 2006

Posts: 2,025

Likes: 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv757

Good. A few more dead scabs. Just need to get the clown suits.

A perfect idea for a Go Fund Me site.
Clown suit manufacturing start up and Fed Ex them on time

04-04-2016 | 07:02 PM

#20

baseball

Gets Weekends Off

Joined: Aug 2013

Posts: 2,159

Likes: 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by ugleeual

If Gordon Buffoon gets on the BOD then we can kiss any future pay raises or work rule improvements for the forseable future... That 16% raise looks like a better deal now more than ever.

Gordon doesn't care if the employees make money. He only cares what happens to the stock price and the dividends to institutional investors.

The price of a pilot is the price of a pilot. Back when he was running Continental he didn't have to pay them much because of the market place. Supply of pilots was high, demand for the jobs not so much.

Today, our skills, judgement, and experience command and demand higher pay. Pilots are worth more in 2016 then they were in 1998.