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Old 05-30-2016 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
That seems very aggressive. Can Boeing even deliver on that schedule?
2 per month to UA?

Yup, Boeing builds 7 to 8 777s per month. In the case of these orders, UAL grabbed production slots of aircraft that KLM/AF cancelled which is why they were available at short notice.
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Old 05-30-2016 | 05:32 AM
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2 per month?

Yup, they build 7 to 8 777s per month.
Cool. I hope we have the crews for them and the routes ready to rock and roll. That is some seriously good growth in a seriously awesome fleet type. Good trips, great QoL, and a decent paycheck for those crews. I hope we aren't putting them up for static display all around the system and keeping our crews in hibernation in IAH.
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Old 05-30-2016 | 05:35 AM
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Cool. I hope we have the crews for them and the routes ready to rock and roll. That is some seriously good growth in a seriously awesome fleet type. Good trips, great QoL, and a decent paycheck for those crews.
We'll see the bids to staff them starting in June. According to the fleet planners the primary use initially will be up-gauging existing EWR markets and then the 777-200s will backfill other markets. It's not as rosy as it could first appear because UA also brought 5 787s orders forward. Combined it's enough airframes to permit the earlier than planned retirements of the 747s so the net result is only mild growth.
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Old 05-30-2016 | 09:07 AM
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2016: Dec x1
2017: Jan x2, Feb x2, Mar x3, Apr x2
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Old 05-30-2016 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
We'll see the bids to staff them starting in June. According to the fleet planners the primary use initially will be up-gauging existing EWR markets and then the 777-200s will backfill other markets. It's not as rosy as it could first appear because UA also brought 5 787s orders forward. Combined it's enough airframes to permit the earlier than planned retirements of the 747s so the net result is only mild growth.





30 percent increase of pilot roster for the 777 at ORD
and that will be mostly filled by the B744 displaced pilots
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Old 05-30-2016 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
30 percent increase of pilot roster for the 777 at ORD
and that will be mostly filled by the B744 displaced pilots
According to the snapshot many of them are leaving for 787 CA/FO. Will be interesting to see where the rest go.
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Old 05-31-2016 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by svergin
According to the snapshot many of them are leaving for 787 CA/FO. Will be interesting to see where the rest go.
5 out of 15 bumps but the fleet is also growing.
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Old 05-31-2016 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
5 out of 15 bumps but the fleet is also growing.


Are you expecting to see open FOs slots on the 777 at ORD in the next upcoming bid next week or so
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Old 05-31-2016 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Are you expecting to see open FOs slots on the 777 at ORD in the next upcoming bid next week or so
If I were to guess, yes I do expect to see ORD 777 FO vacancies. But I have zero insight into future staffing plans.

I'm just going off of what's written in the mid-May Crew Resources Update and the planned delivery schedule. The Crew Resources Update indicates the greatest staffing demands will be in SFO and ORD.

Since they're delivering ~2 777s per month starting in December, I'd expect training to temporarily overstaff the 777 so that there are adequate crews to fly all of the new metal. I don't know how fast new crews can be trained but staffing 2 new aircraft a month sounds like a bit more than they can handle in the training pipeline.
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Old 06-01-2016 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Since they're delivering ~2 777s per month starting in December, I'd expect training to temporarily overstaff the 777 so that there are adequate crews to fly all of the new metal. I don't know how fast new crews can be trained but staffing 2 new aircraft a month sounds like a bit more than they can handle in the training pipeline.
Maybe that explains the over staffing of IAH 777. they have the crews trained and ready to go. Likely they'll just build those trips out of IAH and DH crews to ORD and SFO.
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