You know another good question no one has brought up to Chuck is why is he the only savior for the LCAL IAH pilots LTD fund ?

Correct me if Im wrong, aren't there significant numbers of LCAL pilots in EWR, GUM and CLE that are all represented on those individual LECs by former LCAL pilots?

So why hasn't Johnson, Leneski, Clark, Bennett, Corneilson, or McGuire written their LECS members about what Chuck claims as facts in his mind that the LCAL LTD fund is going to be used in an inappropriate manner or that the former LUAL reps are doing something wrong regarding the fund at the detriment of LCAL pilots ?

Could it be because none of what Chuck alleges is true and they know it, maybe an email to one of those pilots asking if Chuck's allegations are correct or incorrect is a good idea ?

Again its simple, some pilots don't want the actual facts they like their own opinions even when their proven wrong.

ALPA won't be happy till there is no trace of Continental within the 'leadership'.

Chuck may be a partisan CAL guy, but no less so than any of the UAL guys who now own the union lock, stock and barrel.

So, 4500 pilots have basically been disenfranchised, most of whom have tossed their pins down the sh*tter, and have stopped contributing to the PAC.

So much for unity :(

That's such a cop out.

So, 4500 pilots have basically been disenfranchised, most of whom have tossed their pins down the sh*tter, and have stopped contributing to the PAC.

No, It's 4000 pilots. The other 500 pilots are Scabs.

Here we have a Cummins follower that admits he follows Cummins because he represents just the LCAL pilots. Is this the kind of leadership we need? We should all be familiar with Jay Peirce and the division he created with the same talk - what has it been now, 6 years. Did it work - NO! All it did was drive a wedge of lies and false promises that we still see today and echoed by Cummins and tailwheel48.

A few points.

ALPA National comes to every MEC meeting. They have had two lawyers in the room for every single meeting. So, I disagree with a big portion of your retort above. Sure, National can't force it...But why not influence it. Saw and heard too many national lawyers explaining the law, explaining federal law and then trying to explain a narrow loop hole or interpretation. My question was always: Is this what UAL MEC does, or DAL, etc? Chances are those other MEC's who have had big time experience with labor law and USSERA had some good clues as to how to do it right. Someone, or some office, or power, or entity should have forced logic and rational thought into the process. The pins our pilots wore were ALPA pins, not CAL MEC pins. Our dues money went to National.... Ya get that right?

Yes a JFK guy helped out, I recall that. But, to get into the nitty-gritty of it. Check this out. Post 9-11 and post PBS into the contract 02 era the CAL MEC stood up the military laison committee, and no other ALPA carrier had one of those. Interesting right???? Why?

Answer: our military pilots were getting squeezed by PBS, the PBS committee, and management. Our pilot group lost 400 pilots just due to PBS implementation alone. We also added block hours and bought aircraft. But management started to get ****ey about pilots taking MLLV outside of or during the PBS bidding cycle.

The military laison committee was supposed to intercede and represent the interests of the dues paying military pilots to solve the problems that came up post 9-11 (ops tempo), and post contract '02 (PBS). The committee ultimately became totally dysfunctional and disenfranchised, leaving one chairman to resign in protest, and another to file his own lawsuit. Simultaneously, a sitting IAH LC 171 Vice Chair became a named plaintiff in the suit because he was unable to work within the ALPA system to drive results favorable to the CAL military pilots/ALPA members. The ALPA system was essentially this: "we don't want to give military members anything special, because if we did, this is favoritism over one pilot demographic over another." The interpretation was flat out wrong. Military pilots are simply guaranteed specific protections under federal law that others do not have access to.

In hind sight, the military liaison committee should have never been created, even the creator of the committee later said I wish we had never done this. Instead, we should have simply referred our member pilots to the Ombudsman, DoL, or DoJ, and left it at that.

I am certainly one of those people who don't believe in MEC specific problems any more. I don't buy it. If an MEC is dysfunctional, dishonest, or incompetent it should go into receivership and their decisions that may get legally challenged or are on the lunatic fringe of rational thought should be thought out critically by ALPA National attorneys and/or the BOD. My pin says ALPA. What does yours say?

It hasn't been brought up, but please consider the following:

Each and every single pilot Chuck has ever represented at a disciplinary hearing had a favorable outcome. His experience in grievance and representation is exceptional and his work record spotless.

Also, all of the safety, FAA, FAA-Certificate Action, NTSB, FOQA, and ASAP stuff has been brilliant. He has very well represented his customers.

I can't think of (and I am trying hard) to find a single pilot who had a negative outcome while Chuck was involved in the process. He has done phenomenal work in some areas that very few pilots will ever get an opportunity to work in. Also, he has followed the rules, he has kept quiet and kept it all confidential and has handled allot of very sensitive issues with class.

Tailwheel 48:

A guy like you deserves to someday be an out of work airline pilot that ends up taking your 787 type rating and going to work for Bjorn Kjos over at Norwegian. Flying routes you once flew for a total compensation package of about 40 cents on every dollar that you used to make. Mr. Kjos is most annoyed by lobbying efforts against his schemes, so he really appreciates guys that think like you.

I continue to wonder why does Chuck need to go negative and divisive if he actually is the great representative he's portrayed to be? Could he be making up for short cummins?