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zondaracer 08-02-2016 06:52 AM

I wonder how long one would work at ATCA before going to United?

Jukem88 08-02-2016 08:47 AM

18 months at ATCA

MacrossJet 08-03-2016 01:21 AM


Originally Posted by Jukem88 (Post 2172603)
18 months at ATCA

Where does it state that?

Lambourne 08-03-2016 05:10 AM

From 1988 to late 1992 United hired pilots with as little as 250 hours.

Regularguy 08-03-2016 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Lambourne (Post 2173200)
From 1988 to late 1992 United hired pilots with as little as 250 hours.

At least at lUAL that is completely untrue. The minimum hours just to apply was 350 and no one, including interns, had less than 500. The average hours hired since 1985 has been somewhere near 3000. Even the infamously 570 group typically had ATP.

There are a few exceptions due to ethnic and gender requirements, but still nothing near 500 hour mark and again most were ATP.

Now if you mean lCAL I have no idea what the min was.

Considering gender I wonder if Kaitlin J could get hired today? Age, gender, famous media, ESPN heroe and so much more. UAL could even use KJ to do the safety video. :(

socalflyboy 08-03-2016 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 2172386)
Obviously that wouldn't be practical, I just meant it as a joke.

Sorry, this is a public forum for Airline pilots..this thread is particular to UAL pilots..no joking is allowed:D

BMEP100 08-04-2016 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by fireman0174 (Post 2171968)
I was one of those from the 60's. Commitment from UAL was I would be hired if I got my commercial in one year. Got it within three months or so.
UAL paid for instrument rating and I was "on the payroll", although the pay certainly wasn't much! :eek:
Started "on the line" in April 1967 as a DC-6 FE - 22 years old.
Retired as 777 Captain.
Lucky? Understatement of my life.

Nice to hear from someone who knows a double shorted secondary when he sees one.;)

Rmk1991 08-05-2016 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 2173247)
At least at lUAL that is completely untrue. The minimum hours just to apply was 350 and no one, including interns, had less than 500. The average hours hired since 1985 has been somewhere near 3000. Even the infamously 570 group typically had ATP.

There are a few exceptions due to ethnic and gender requirements, but still nothing near 500 hour mark and again most were ATP.

Now if you mean lCAL I have no idea what the min was.

Considering gender I wonder if Kaitlin J could get hired today? Age, gender, famous media, ESPN heroe and so much more. UAL could even use KJ to do the safety video. :(


Why are the 570 infamous? Did they do something bad by striking against the B-scale payrates?

Probe 08-05-2016 05:24 AM

I don't think accepting a job during a strike qualifies as "striking".

Hi Staller

Dave Fitzgerald 08-05-2016 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 2173247)
At least at lUAL that is completely untrue. The minimum hours just to apply was 350 and no one, including interns, had less than 500. The average hours hired since 1985 has been somewhere near 3000. Even the infamously 570 group typically had ATP.

There are a few exceptions due to ethnic and gender requirements, but still nothing near 500 hour mark and again most were ATP.

Now if you mean lCAL I have no idea what the min was.

Considering gender I wonder if Kaitlin J could get hired today? Age, gender, famous media, ESPN heroe and so much more. UAL could even use KJ to do the safety video. :(

Sorry to burst your bubble. I was hired April '87. There were several in my class that had less than 1000 hrs, in fact one only had 650. I was in the first group to be interviewed after the pool of interviewies were used from the strike.

The 650 person had a very rough time getting through but we did have a lot of other experience in the class with some prior heavy time. In the end, we got everyone though, and a lot of instructing on our own to do it.

Our 727 FE class was the shortest in UAL history--which didn't help any. Right after our class, UAL announced that they had lost the EEOC discrimination hiring law suit. Everything changed. I'm sure our class was impacted by the "new requirements."


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