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JoePatroni 10-05-2016 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2217364)
Just wait until those 747 FOs in SFO get bumped and most of them can hold 787 Captain in SFO as well. That bottom 787 Captain is going to hold the record for years being on reserve if he doesn't get displaced or bid off.

75 out of 253 can hold 787 CA and at least 25-30 of those would be on reserve. Going to be interesting either way.

svergin 10-05-2016 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2217455)
75 out of 253 can hold 787 CA and at least 25-30 of those would be on reserve. Going to be interesting either way.

True. Plus a few of them that I talked to said they were waiting to get back to LAX since they went up to SFO when they closed the LAX 747 base. Apparently many of the previously LAX people are waiting for their bumps or just bidding LAX as it becomes available.

JoePatroni 10-05-2016 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2217493)
True. Plus a few of them that I talked to said they were waiting to get back to LAX since they went up to SFO when they closed the LAX 747 base. Apparently many of the previously LAX people are waiting for their bumps or just bidding LAX as it becomes available.

From the looks of the SFO trips, even being a junior line holder isn't all that great.

Contrail06 10-09-2016 09:09 AM

How many whale guys/gal in sfo do you think will just retire early instead of going to training to fly for a year or 2 more. I'm not on the fleet, but I gotta imagine a lot of the crews have 62+ yr olds in 1 or more seats.

UAL T38 Phlyer 10-09-2016 09:23 AM

In the last two and a half years, I've seen my "Seniority Gonculator" projected number at my retirement move up 6 numbers over the initial number. (That was when I was shown the website).

In other words, very few retire early...be that voluntarily, or involuntarily (loss of medical, running a brothel, smuggling lots of cash from India....). :rolleyes:

jsled 10-09-2016 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Contrail06 (Post 2219944)
How many whale guys/gal in sfo do you think will just retire early instead of going to training to fly for a year or 2 more. I'm not on the fleet, but I gotta imagine a lot of the crews have 62+ yr olds in 1 or more seats.

And throw away 300K+ per year with 42 days vacation? I'd say none.

Scrappy 10-09-2016 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2219976)
And throw away 300K+ per year with 42 days vacation? I'd say none.

Ding ding ding...winner. They may tell you that in the cockpit but it ain't happening. And not 300k, try 350k+ once the delta snap up gets implemented.

Dave Fitzgerald 10-09-2016 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Contrail06 (Post 2219944)
How many whale guys/gal in sfo do you think will just retire early instead of going to training to fly for a year or 2 more. I'm not on the fleet, but I gotta imagine a lot of the crews have 62+ yr olds in 1 or more seats.

None, but for different reasons. Remember, LUAL's A-plan was seized. PBGC gives about 20% on the dollar....no A-plan for any LUAL guys. Still trying to catch up.

A lot of guys were saying that the change to age 65 from 60 would never hurt the current pilots, nor lead to furloughs or keep guys out longer. See, how that worked out?

intrepidcv11 10-09-2016 09:21 PM

I would wager all future bidding for the top 400 guys lies in which fleet picks up the service to Fragrant Harbor.

tailwheel48 10-12-2016 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by svergin (Post 2217364)
That bottom 787 Captain is going to hold the record for years being on reserve if he doesn't get displaced or bid off.

You make it sound like it's a bad thing :)


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