And, that was the last plan before we deferred the guppies. That will probably change now.

Read Cadets post right above yours he directly answers your question.

We were replying at the same time, missed his reply. Good explanation. Gotta wonder how far out the number crunching goes as waiting it out can continue for a long time.

And that my friend brings us full circle as to why you were criticized at the beginning. :D. No one knows why they do what they do, and we are all convinced their long term plan expires every 5 min. You will most likely bid the bus to get to DEN when your lock is up and they will decide to beef up the 737 in DEN at the expense of the 320 and you will be stuck on the outside again. That's why people seem cynical and say relax because it's all just a guess.

But instead of taking the the time to explain it to a new guy, we're instead quick to say quit whining? Naw, this company and the pilots here are a lot better than that. In my short time here I've seen mostly good things. It's the negativity that, no matter how new I am, I'll call out every time. I know a lot has happened over the years to cause negative feelings, but if you choose to be miserable, you're not pulling me down with you.

Anyway, thanks for the discussion. It does help explain things.

I can't comment on CLE but to permanently displace IAH and damage it (give up flying to SWA and other carriers) would be ludicrous. The economy as everyone knows in Houston relies heavily on O&G and it is cycical. The O&G industry will rebound, as it has many times, and IAH will be back to profitability in the near future. It's a big hub for us, big maintenance center, and a true gateway to the south. To displace off all the fleets now would be ridiculous. Shrink for now, understandable. Damage it permanently, no. Very shortsighted move.

I didn't mean close IAH I meant right size the staffing. Right now the pilots just go back and forth between fleets in IAH the only way to fix it is to displace from all seats, essentially a flush bid for IAH.

Uhh no. Not necessary. Much to expensive and in the end would probably not solve anything. Training costs would be astronomical and would cost the company 10 fold what any logistical savings would be worth. I'm glad you don't run staffing!

Most negativity is borne out of frustration, just like your own negativity about not holding DEN. RSV rules are frustrating so we complain, can't get paid to extend as a domestic pilot so we complain, we have a crappy line so we complain........it's the pilot way hell the #1 guy isn't even happy because he has to spend an extra day in HKG because of 117 lol. Bottom line is the vast majority of us are happy far from miserable and enjoy what we do. There are some that are true oh misserable but that's the rareity.

Be glad we are talking about our hats and which airplane is better 757 vs 737, because the day we aren't is the day bad things have happened. These are our problems??? Sign me up!!!

Yeah well I wonder how much it cost to displace IAH 737 CAs to 787 FO then back to 737 CA and 777 FO then back to 787 FO......

The company is tired of it because they screwed it up from the beginning and now they are just saying screw it and running 50 CAs fat on the 737 in IAH. How much does that cost?