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SpecialTracking 11-12-2016 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2242249)
Which means 90/10 real world in favor.
Only if you're Trump. ;)

Coach67 11-12-2016 04:13 PM
Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 2240943)
From the other forum a brief comment emanating from a council citing that there might be disagreement between ALPA and the company on the Delta snap up formula. Same as it ever was.
Is this the additive versus compounding issue?

IE

Our 3% 1/17 contractual raise added to the DAL 4.42% for a total of 7.42%,

OR

Our 3% 1/17 contractual raise compounded on the DAL 4.42% for a total of 7.55%,

fadec 12-05-2016 08:35 PM
Delta's pay is retroactive to Jan 1, 2016. Our match goes into effect Feb 1, 2017. Damn.

Sunvox 12-06-2016 05:22 AM
Originally Posted by guppyflyer (Post 2242192)
Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2242184)
They're running a poll on APC/Delta. Last I checked it was 80% in favor.



68/32 right now.

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2253333)
Dear Fellow Pilots,

This morning we voted by a margin of 82%, strongly ratifying Contract 2015, a record in Delta contract history.

. . . .
Fraternally,
Captain John Malone Delta MEC Chairman
Looks like the 80% number I quoted wasn't too far off. Score one for APC.

Chuck D 12-06-2016 06:41 AM
Originally Posted by fadec (Post 2256697)
Delta's pay is retroactive to Jan 1, 2016. Our match goes into effect Feb 1, 2017. Damn.
And our extension has been in effect for around (forget specific start date) that whole time, w/ rates that already encompass the majority of their gains.

It will be interesting to see if other "snap" clauses are put into contracts going forward.

Dave Fitzgerald 12-06-2016 07:03 AM
Just curious, anyone from Delta--did you get a snap up clause?

El10 12-06-2016 07:30 AM
Delta has a snap up clause, but it is very different than ours. There's only kicks in if the other employees get a raise. Then they look at ours and AAs 757 rate and then offset any differences in profit sharing payouts for the prior year.

This was in the old PWA but modified this time to include profit sharing.

Larry in TN 12-06-2016 07:40 AM
Originally Posted by fadec (Post 2256697)
Delta's pay is retroactive to Jan 1, 2016. Our match goes into effect Feb 1, 2017. Damn.
January 30, actually. The first day of the February 2017 bid month.

gloopy 12-06-2016 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by fadec (Post 2256697)
Delta's pay is retroactive to Jan 1, 2016. Our match goes into effect Feb 1, 2017. Damn.
That might be something worth grieving just for fun. :D

gloopy 12-06-2016 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by El10 (Post 2256940)
Delta has a snap up clause, but it is very different than ours. There's only kicks in if the other employees get a raise. Then they look at ours and AAs 757 rate and then offset any differences in profit sharing payouts for the prior year.

This was in the old PWA but modified this time to include profit sharing.
Right. The UAL snap up is WAY better than ours.


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