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Old 11-12-2016 | 11:22 PM
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You guys/ gals need to get your panties out of your cracks. What Trump did is throw out the rules of the past. He is a unknown. He doesn't play by the establish rules of the entrenched parties. Relax boys and girls. The dems were not doing organized labor any favors in case you have not noticed The republicans are not interested in putting us all in chains to work for free.
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Old 11-13-2016 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball
We better not allow any age increases. ALPA better have that all sewn up.
Whatcha gonna do if ALPA doesn't - Move to Canada? May I suggest Mexico over Canada - it's warmer in the winter.

You do know that trump is a 70+ chalky old man that will likely support an age increase for pilots - 70 here we come.
Old 11-13-2016 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AllenAllert
Whatcha gonna do if ALPA doesn't - Move to Canada? May I suggest Mexico over Canada - it's warmer in the winter.

You do know that trump is a 70+ chalky old man that will likely support an age increase for pilots - 70 here we come.
You have zero clue.
Old 11-13-2016 | 08:13 AM
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There is no pilot shortage! stop saying it. 11K apps on file at United. 11K, let that sink in. Job fairs, interview consultants....when those things are gone then maybe, just maybe I will believe there is a shortage.
Old 11-13-2016 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by awax
You can see the writing on the wall how NAI and ME3 will be leveraged against US labor to extract concessions..."Unions have to agree to "x" or we open the US market to the world...". I'd be shocked to see ALPA even mention what SOS would look like until months after we actually need it.
You're postulating that US airline managements, in collusion with the US Federal gov't, would threaten cabotage to extract concessions from the US work force?
Old 11-13-2016 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy
You have zero clue.
On what point? Baseball moving to Mexico instead of Canada for Wx considerations - trump being a 70+ chalky old man or trump not seeing the age restriction as anti-labor and discriminatory.

I didn't vote for trump but those that did opened the door wider. Don't blame ALPA and remember that it was bush Jr. that had the age changed from 60 to 65. 70 can't be that far away and we'll have United pilots retiring with 45+ year careers. That's a good thing for pilots - right?
Old 11-13-2016 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sherpster
There is no pilot shortage! stop saying it. 11K apps on file at United. 11K, let that sink in. Job fairs, interview consultants....when those things are gone then maybe, just maybe I will believe there is a shortage.
Sigh... Many of those 11K have apps in at Delta, American, FedEx, UPS, JetBlue, etc. Also how many of them are low time guys, shady backgrounds and so on that are swinging for the fences just because they meet the low hour requirements we have?
It might sound like a lot of competition now, but another year or so of everyone hiring and our recruitment team might be singing a different tune.
Old 11-13-2016 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
Sigh... Many of those 11K have apps in at Delta, American, FedEx, UPS, JetBlue, etc. Also how many of them are low time guys, shady backgrounds and so on that are swinging for the fences just because they meet the low hour requirements we have?

It might sound like a lot of competition now, but another year or so of everyone hiring and our recruitment team might be singing a different tune.


What you say makes sense, but we have yet to see the first regional fatality. While hiring has been tough at the regional level, people are still coming in the doors. We have seen some tremendous pay growth at all levels. We haven't seen any consolidation at the regional level yet. That industry segment is still the same size it was 3-4 years ago.


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Old 11-13-2016 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dvhighdrive88
Now age 67. Yeah I see Trump signing that in a second. After all he's 70 and still grabbing women by the...
The ATA has already started lobbying for ways to ease the pilot shortage. Kill the 1500 hour/ATP requirement for new regional hires. Increase the age limit or even abolish it completely.

Originally Posted by baseball
We better not allow any age increases. ALPA better have that all sewn up.
ALPA isn't going to have ANY effect on new legislation OR an Executive Order that would change the age limit. In fact, ALPA wants the top of the list to stay LONGER...more dues money generated at higher wage rates.

Originally Posted by AllenAllert
You do know that trump is a 70+ chalky old man that will likely support an age increase for pilots - 70 here we come.
Sooner than later, I imagine.
Old 11-13-2016 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 4V14T0R
What you say makes sense, but we have yet to see the first regional fatality. While hiring has been tough at the regional level, people are still coming in the doors. We have seen some tremendous pay growth at all levels. We haven't seen any consolidation at the regional level yet. That industry segment is still the same size it was 3-4 years ago.
Say what?????
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