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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
(Post 2284302)
Once the national "Right to Work" law (aka Right for Management to Bust Unions) is passed the clock will be ticking for us. The effect for UA pilots will be quite slow at first, and perhaps for years, but then all at once once the dominos fall.
A small increase in profit sharing as a result of increased corporate profits will be dwarfed by a nice 30-40% decrease in career total compensation. Of course, I'm a cynic. Maybe we'll all get ponies. |
Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 2283547)
If true that would bring my estimate down to 15%.
:D:D:D (Sorry, it was a very cheap shot but I couldn't resist.) |
Originally Posted by Airhogg
(Post 2284286)
Sounds like you need the safe space and coloring book..... we all feel bad you were only making $130000 a year 😴😴😴. Move on....
It does suck for guys that have 10/11 months of service and miss the profit sharing. The company is bound to pretty strict IRS guidlines, its common for companies to require 12 months or 1000 hours of service to meet IRS requirements. |
Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 2284315)
And Mr. new hire is going to be making more as a 3rd year F/O than I was as a 12 the year NB capt just 6 years ago. This isn't about pity or sympathy. Simply education.
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Originally Posted by rp2pilot
(Post 2274956)
Thanks for the heads up .. I'm hoping the MEC sends out info on this in the near future as I'm trying to figure out the tax ramifications. I "believe" that our personal contributions (separate from the company's) are subject to the 401k limits of 18,000 / 24,000(over50), so a portion of it should go in pre-tax.
Also note that there is an IRS max limit for combined personal and company contributions ($54K/$60K). Profit sharing is considered a bonus and is subject to automatic maximum tax withholding. Regardless of the withholding the total income tax burden for the year is calculated as part of one's return so it all comes out as applicable in the end. |
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
(Post 2284302)
Once the national "Right to Work" law (aka Right for Management to Bust Unions) is passed the clock will be ticking for us. The effect for UA pilots will be quite slow at first, and perhaps not noticeable for years, but then quite dramatic once the dominos fall.
A small increase in profit sharing as a result of increased corporate profits will be dwarfed by a nice 30-40% decrease in career total compensation. (For a comparison of "market rates", refer to the non-CBA compensation at companies like VA or JB. Make sure to include retirement and health insurance expenses in the calculation.) Of course, I'm a cynic. Maybe we'll all get ponies. |
I don't see it that way. It didn't seem like anyone was displaying an entitled mentality.
While some of the older guys were enduring furloughs, pay cuts, etc..., others were enduring regional pay and hours, some were enduring NO jobs, and others were enduring deployments beyond belief. Stop beating each other up. We should be paid more. We should have better reserve rules. We should share in profits, even if you've only worked here a month, let alone 11 1/2 months. We should be working not only to better our profession, but ALSO our company. Too quick to judge and too much hostility on this forum. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk |
Sounds like you need the safe space and coloring book..... we all feel bad you were only making $130000 a year ������. Move on....
It does suck for guys that have 10/11 months of service and miss the profit sharing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ The second sentence if used alone, has my sympathy. When combined with the first, it diminishes the value of the true issue at hand. It attempts to portray the junior pilot as a victim and not receiving what others did. Ergo, entitlement. It is what it is. I didn't complain when the number one sUAL Capt received another five years in his -400 seat. I didn't complain when the top half to third of each list wasn't bumped. When someone espouses issues like this, they should be called out for it. ST |
Profit Sharing Predictions
My apologies to you and others who have been here at UAL and went thru 10 years of bankruptcy at reduced wages regarding my careless post. I didn't mean to come across entitled, but I should of worded it differently. I respect the fact that you and others made major sacrifices here after 9/11 and happy that You all have paved a way to have a nice career at UAL.
My background just so you know my story. I'm not a Millennial. I grew up in a "real" non scab EAL family so I'm very familiar with the plight of this industry 1970s-80's. I was hired at UAL at age 49. It took me 25 plus years to finally land a job at a Legacy carrier. I spent 6 years at 2 different regionals in the early 90's. My first regional job was $900/mo salary. Left there after a year due to the horrible pay. The second ALPA represented regional I made no more than $30k/yr for 4 years then furloughed in 1994 due to Mesa Airlines purchase of aircraft assets. I continued paying ALPA dues as a non-active participant for the next 18 years because I believe in Union protection even though I left 121 flying for corporate to make a liveable wage as a pilot. Corporate Aviation wasn't much better and I never made much more than 80-90K and that was the last few years prior to taking this job. The benefits and retirement were non existent. Currently, I have 2 daughters in college and paying for my 88 year old mother who has Alzheimer's in assisted living. My intention was...I could really use the profit sharing money to help out. Again, my apologies for my post.[/QUOTE] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Airhogg
(Post 2284286)
Sounds like you need the safe space and coloring book..... we all feel bad you were only making $130000 a year 😴😴😴. Move on....
It does suck for guys that have 10/11 months of service and miss the profit sharing. The company is bound to pretty strict IRS guidlines, its common for companies to require 12 months or 1000 hours of service to meet IRS requirements. |
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