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UAL T38 Phlyer 01-17-2017 04:43 AM

What fleet is this? Because the guys I fly with (756) are extremely reasonable---and cautious---when it comes to turbulence, speed, and in particular, F/A safety.


When keying the mike, pushing buttons on the MCP, or push/pulling the yoke: I like to think I've got a cabin full of my mom. She's 78 years old.

I like to do and say things nice and easy because she has no idea what we're doing up here, is pretty nervous about it all, and if it wasn't for people like her back there I wouldn't get to sit up here.
Well-said, Sir Winston. I also imagine that all 200 or so of my "Moms" carry my allowance money, and dole it out only when I do my chores properly....;)

robthree 01-17-2017 05:42 AM

Doesn't the FOM cover this?

1: Safe,








2: Comfortable,















3: On Time,



4: Efficient.

In that order. And hopefully somewhere near that magnitude.

SEPfield 01-17-2017 05:56 AM

It's all those ex mil guys. When you're only carrying boxes or bombs who cares what the ride is like. Haha

For the record that was sarcasm from prior enlisted aircrew.

bigfatdaddy 01-17-2017 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by SEPfield (Post 2282909)
It's all those ex mil guys. When you're only carrying boxes or bombs who cares what the ride is like. Haha

For the record that was sarcasm from prior enlisted aircrew.

That's cause all the "sweaties" just love the "E-ticket ride"......😉

Airhoss 01-17-2017 06:16 AM

We train them to be little SOP robots. Individual thought and good common sense flying is discouraged. So don't be surprised if they take a bit readjustment once they get to the line.

HuggyU2 01-17-2017 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 2282817)
Obtw, when climbing and the dispatcher says in writing you will climb at CI 120. It really is ok to reef it back to .78/280 for turbulence.

So what's the answer here? Serious question.

jdt30 01-17-2017 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 2282923)
So what's the answer here? Serious question.

I don't fly at redline

Dave Fitzgerald 01-17-2017 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 2282923)
So what's the answer here? Serious question.

Serious answer, click off the autopilot, and fly the plane.


The 777 it's getting to be an epidemic. Auto pilot on. Even though it's doing something you don't want it to do. They don't know how to anticipate the automation to keep it from doing something they don't want, and then they continue to diddle the knobs in wasted effort and in vain to make it do something else than what they've programmed...I've had numerous cohorts tell me I have to have the autopilot on above FL180. Know the rules. But then again, these are the dweebs that put the AP on at 200' in the first place. I place a large part of the blame on TK teaching to the lowest common denominator.

Seriously, just one, maybe two clicks of the little red button..

oldmako 01-17-2017 07:19 AM

That needle ball airspeed stuff still works pretty good. That, and Pitch + Power = Performance, uphill or down.

http://xplanereviews.com/uploads/mon...691721cd5b.jpg

No TV's on this old gal.

757Driver 01-17-2017 07:23 AM

I'm too busy making the new, ridiculous call-outs to worry about such trivial things like turbulence. Missed 2 radio calls while the F/O blathered out what the display indicated going into LA the other day. Thank god for the get out of jail free card at the end of the procedure that allows you to "suspend" the inane nonsense which I now do from takeoff to touch down.

What toolbag came up with this crap anyway?


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