Aeirum

~8000h total, 2300PIC 2 NB types, 2 WB types, BS.C., Various volunteer work, all civ. Currently at Kalitta.

Aeirum

Thank you! I'll be looking out for it!

tnkrdrvr

UPS loves to hire from Kalitta, Atlas, etc. You guys already know the job and tend to do very well.

Aeirum

Thank you for the kind words! Any tips on preparing for the call?

tnkrdrvr

It is effectively the first part of the interview. Be prepared to explain why UPS and to answer any questions about your resume. Typically, the call ends with them extending an offer to take the Hogan. That is emailed to you within a week normally. From there timelines vary depending on HR processes we have no visibility on.

NickJ78

hey Apple what was your flight time like when. You initially applied? See it took about 8 months from your initial post. Hope you got the gig.

AvgAv8r

I wouldn’t stop trying and making efforts if I were you.

First off, applications can go from being ‘locked’ back to just being ‘green’. Happened to me.

Second, during the in person interview they specifically asked me if I’d attended any job fairs, and if so...which ones and what years. I really do think that it mattered to them that I was able to say yes.

That’s just my 2 cents.

BrownDoubles

YES!! I asked at my interview if I should cancel my upcoming job fair appointment slot time because I didn't want to occupy a slot for someone to meet with a recruiter. The response -- "what you don't want to hang out with us?" I attended 1 weeks later; 15 minutes after my appointment -- pool letter. Coincidence??? Maybe, but in my mind one job fair got me the interview and the other one got me the job. Admittedly, I don't think they carry the same weight today as they did several years ago when they were officially collecting resumes and the fair circuit was bigger. I still think they carry value though... good luck.

AvgAv8r

FWIW:

I’m 100% civ/corporate. 4 yr degree. Reasonable int’l time. No heavy jet time. Chief Pilot for 15 years (about 100 pilots). CKAM and TRNG Airman.

UPS is the only place I’ve applied.

June 2017:
First Application
6300 TT / 3300 TPIC (which was about 600 less than my actual time but had no way of recovering that from our company system - long story, but since I can’t prove it, I don’t log it)
Special Issuance medical (nothing major, but battled and beat cancer. Clean diagnosis)
1 internal recommend.
Green Check mark.
Attended OBAP

Jan 2018:
Second Application (when they reset it at beginning of the year)
6500 TT / 3500 TPIC
Special Issuance medical (4th year of a 5 year required deal)
1 internal recommend (that would stop in to HR every now and then for me)
Green Check mark.
Attended FAPA and WAI.
Got a business card from the (interim) head of HR. Thought that was the golden ticket.
Application went to ‘Locked’ in NOV, where it remained until Jan when new applications were made available, then went back to green check mark.

Jan 2019:
Third Application
6900 TT / 3900 TPIC
Normal medical (but neglected to change that on app)
1 internal recommend (same as before)
Green Check mark
Attended NGPA

Now, around September-ish, I sorta ‘gave up’. Not saying I was being pejorative or getting upset, but just sorta believed that maybe it wasn’t meant to be. I stopped my weekly login to check my application status and settled in to the long haul at my current (good) company.

Around early December I couldn’t help myself and logged in again. I updated my total time to about 7300, and noticed that my medical still showed Special Issuance. So, I removed that from the app since I’d had that removed about 1 year prior.

New app became available on Dec 27th (or real close). I reapplied that same day with my updated info (which hadn’t really changed since early Dec).

I got ‘the call’ on Jan 3. Hogan the next day. Took me about 4 days to take it (because of flight schedules), passed it. Got a call the next day to schedule interview.

Interviewed on Feb 3, got a call for the CJO Feb 5. April 7th class.


Maybe some of this will be helpful. Maybe none of it will be helpful. But take from it what you want.

I truly do believe my special issuance had something to do with it, but no one will ever know, and it’s only my opinion. I suppose the moral of the story for me was that I needed to see this from the beginning as the marathon it truly can be. I thought I was prepared for that, but realized later that maybe I wasn’t.

In the end, my only real advice (since each pathway is so different) is to not give up, the effort can truly pay off. I can tell you that since that first phone call, the folks at UPS have been nothing but helpful, friendly, upbeat and incredibly kind. It’s been more like working with a group of friends than a potential employer. Hard to fully explain. But maybe if I told you that most of the HR interview was simply the three of us (HR, UPS pilot and me) ‘chatting’ about life. They did ask questions, but they just seemed more like ‘conversation starters’ in a relaxed environment. Sorry, hard to describe.

I can’t, obviously, speak to what it’s like once on the line. But, I can say, without exception, each and every UPS Pilot I’ve chatted with has been straight up awesome. So, if that’s the type of peeps I’m going to get to work with....well, how bad could it be?

Good luck to you, stay the course and don’t give up. It’ll happen.

-Avg

Madella0124

Congrats and welcome. I too came from the corporate world and pounded the pavement for a while to get on here.

I’m about to finish my first year and here are just some of the things I’ve learned in my first year.

- work hard in training, it’s not hard but it’s a little intense compared to CAE/FSI. Especially when you get to the sim/procedures trainer.
- training was very hard on my wife and kids. It’s a long time to be away. Make sure they know how much you appreciate the sacrifice they are making
- everyone here is extremely nice, helpful, and patient. Be very humble. These guys are some of the best I’ve flown with. They just want you to show up with a good attitude and ready to do your job to the best of your ability.
- make an effort to stay healthy and hit the gym. It’s very easy to fall down the trap of sleeping as much as you can.
- stay in the books after training. There is always more to learn.