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Old 02-13-2020, 01:18 PM   #11  
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Why would you want those cities back? Why not add Kandahar, Aleppo and Bagdad? Doctors have stated the Flu is more dangerous than Coronavirus. Media is driven from profit, remember that.
Have you ever been to Tel Aviv or Ankara? I feel safer there than in Detroit and would love to trade..

How about we trade Detroit for Tel-Aviv and Oakland for Ankara/Istanbul? (I mention Istanbul because weíd probably end up flying out of the brand-new airport in Istanbul as opposed to Ankara)

So youíre ok with Turkish pilots flying our cargo to Turkey and to Israel? DECADES after the initial security threats? 😞
Why donít we surrender Shenzhen, Shanghai and Hong Kong to other airlines? Singapore and Sydney while weíre at it?
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Have you ever been to Tel Aviv or Ankara? I feel safer there than in Detroit and would love to trade..

How about we trade Detroit for Tel-Aviv and Oakland for Ankara/Istanbul? (I mention Istanbul because weíd probably end up flying out of the brand-new airport in Istanbul as opposed to Ankara)

So youíre ok with Turkish pilots flying our cargo to Turkey and to Israel? DECADES after the initial security threats? 😞
Why donít we surrender Shenzhen, Shanghai and Hong Kong to other airlines? Singapore and Sydney while weíre at it?
Why donít we add Africa flying too. Donít forget your bribery money. Youíll need it to buy the aircrafts transponder back that was taken out during the turn. Then have to pay a surcharge to get fuel in cash.... Iíve been to Tel-Aviv, Ankara, Kandahar, Bagdad, Oakland and Detroit. Little dramatic about Detroit and Oakland. Did you know EL AL aircraft are equipped with middle defense systems to protect against SAMs? Did you know Mossad provides security? You want to fly there, have at it.. Iím ok with it. How long has WG flown Domestic turns, you didnít mention that?
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Why donít we add Africa flying too. Donít forget your bribery money. Youíll need it to buy the aircrafts transponder back that was taken out during the turn. Then have to pay a surcharge to get fuel in cash.... Iíve been to Tel-Aviv, Ankara, Kandahar, Bagdad, Oakland and Detroit. Little dramatic about Detroit and Oakland. Did you know EL AL aircraft are equipped with middle defense systems to protect against SAMs? Did you know Mossad provides security? You want to fly there, have at it.. Iím ok with it. How long has WG flown Domestic turns, you didnít mention that?
Yeah I agree - why donít we fly to Africa?? ..and yes, we should be getting those cities too.

You seem to argue for the sake of arguing? What is your point? That we should just cave in and give up all the cities some might feel uncomfortable with?
I canít believe one of our guys/gals would argue for limits on IPA flying? So you feel uncomfortable with flying to Tel Aviv and Ankara and prefer pilots from other airlines do this flying for us instead?? Is that really what you want? I want IPA pilots to do ALL of that flying.. if youíre expecting me to wish for something else you must have me confused with a manager.

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Yeah I agree - why donít we fly to Africa?? ..and yes, we should be getting those cities too.

You seem to argue for the sake of arguing? What is your point? That we should just cave in and give up all the cities some might feel uncomfortable with?
I canít believe one of our guys/gals would argue for limits on IPA flying? So you feel uncomfortable with flying to Tel Aviv and Ankara and prefer pilots from other airlines do this flying for us instead?? Is that really what you want? I want IPA pilots to do ALL of that flying.. if youíre expecting me to wish for something else you must have me confused with a manager.

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Western Global how many domestic turns did they do all last year after peak?

Iím not arguing. If you feel the safety of crews is worth the flying, then run for IPA office or go into management. Donít complain about it on the Internet. Go make a difference! Oh and my point is crew safety. Thanks for asking.
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Western Global how many domestic turns did they do all last year after peak?

Iím not arguing. If you feel the safety of crews is worth the flying, then run for IPA office or go into management. Donít complain about it on the Internet.
Too funny, because Ďsafety for the crewsí WAS the managementís excuse for taking that flying away and then keeping it away from us (seemingly in perpetuity).

Since you care so much about our welfare and our safety maybe you should suggest all flying YOU deem unsafe is kept away from ALL IPA pilots? ..you donít want it and therefore it must be unsafe.

Still donít get your WB comment. All of that flying should be IPA so what is your point here?
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Too funny, because Ďsafety for the crewsí WAS the managementís excuse for taking that flying away and then keeping it away from us (seemingly in perpetuity).

Since you care so much about our welfare and our safety maybe you should suggest all flying YOU deem unsafe is kept away from ALL IPA pilots? ..you donít want it and therefore it must be unsafe.

Still donít get your WB comment. All of that flying should be IPA so what is your point here?
So youíre saying all domestic flights were done by UPS/IPA crews except for peak last year?

You seem to be the type that if the flying returned into Turkey, the first sign of trouble, youíd be whining that UPS shouldnít be flying there and putting crews in danger...

Lighten up. Itís not my fault you donít have a date for Valentines day. I take you will be flying into ďThe MogĒ next month?

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So youíre saying all domestic flights were done by UPS/IPA crews except for peak last year?

You seem to be the type that if the flying returned into Turkey, the first sign of trouble, youíd be whining that UPS shouldnít be flying there and putting crews in danger...

Lighten up. Itís not my fault you donít have a date for Valentines day. I take you will be flying into ďThe MogĒ next month?

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wtf dude is your problem?? Whatís up with the personal insults? Not in a million years wouldíve ever thought one of ours would argue for us to give up our flying to pilots working for other airlines? Unbelievable.. I just donít get what youíre saying? I repeat Tel-Aviv and Ankara should be flown by ipa pilots - NOT Turkish pilots.
Never said all domestic flying was done by our pilots, not once did I say that. I did say I wish that was the case. I am ipa and want ipa pilots to have as many flying opportunities as possible. Never realized there were those who wished for other airlines to do our flying..
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Yeah I agree - why donít we fly to Africa?? ..and yes, we should be getting those cities too.
👆. Iím with you. Iíll fly into those cities. Iíve flown into way sketchier than either of those and had way less support than what some think ups would provide
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Western Global was a blatant scope violation that the IPA beat back, just as the ATSG 767s were.

As for other cities...theyíd be more IPA pilot jobs, somebody will bid it. Remember BTís video earlier this week where international scope was in the companyís crosshairs?

Delta does Lagos, Accra, and Dakar; I donít think theyíve required crew bribes or been held up at gunpoint.
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Western Global was a blatant scope violation that the IPA beat back, just as the ATSG 767s were.

As for other cities...theyíd be more IPA pilot jobs, somebody will bid it. Remember BTís video earlier this week where international scope was in the companyís crosshairs?

Delta does Lagos, Accra, and Dakar; I donít think theyíve required crew bribes or been held up at gunpoint.
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