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Brownose74 09-10-2025 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 3947839)
If you're referring to me, I missed the boomer generation by nearly 20 years.

This whole thing has the feel of FedEx and future dysfunction.

Those I used to fly with said their biggest fear with all of this hiring is the past being forgotten and mistakes repeated. They may have been correct to feel that way.

Not even close to FedEx. Most of the senior guys I fly have actually made comments that since 2014 we’ve hired a bunch of guys with big airline experience and they want the younger crowd to start helping. However, seems like the EB is not necessarily opened to it— I hear this from lots of newbies that want to help— I haven’t ask to help cus I have lots of stuff going at home.
we can’t keep living in the past, airlines are fluid and so should we. Look at the optimizer, BOOM, how do we adapt to that with 2006 expertise? We have to adapt to change and start coming up with new and fresh ideas. Even the management from what I hear is not even close to the terror of the past. So come on, let’s be real, we have tons of talent with legacy experience. We can use new and old to come up with great results.
not 700 dollars/$HR cus UPS won’t respect the language and we are run by truckers. Time to stop that BS

Hellafo 09-10-2025 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 3947839)
If you're referring to me, I missed the boomer generation by nearly 20 years.

This whole thing has the feel of FedEx and future dysfunction.

Those I used to fly with said their biggest fear with all of this hiring is the past being forgotten and mistakes repeated. They may have been correct to feel that way.

I was referring to the ones no longer on the seniority list.

FTv3 09-11-2025 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Brownose74 (Post 3947914)
We have to adapt to change and start coming up with new and fresh ideas.

How about starting with identifying the actual problem before trying to fix it vs putting a blindfold on an archer and hoping they hit bullseye…. 🤷‍♂️

BoilerUP 09-11-2025 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Brownose74
we can’t keep living in the past, airlines are fluid and so should we. Look at the optimizer, BOOM, how do we adapt to that with 2006 expertise?

You have a Scheduling Chair with multiple years of experience using it at a previous airline, that's how...

tnkrdrvr 09-11-2025 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3948256)
You have a Scheduling Chair with multiple years of experience using it at a previous airline, that's how...

Which by definition means he wasn’t here in 2006.

Swedish Blender 09-13-2025 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3948256)
You have a Scheduling Chair with multiple years of experience using it at a previous airline, that's how...

Is that the reason the previous chair was asked to resign?

BoilerUP 09-13-2025 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 3948857)
Is that the reason the previous chair was asked to resign?

Have no idea.

Vito 09-22-2025 11:55 AM

Joachim, ,
You seem to come across as a bit of a snowflake. Why would you care if a retiree posts on the B&G?. And what do they say that seems to bother you so much?I’ve said it before, a retiree can convey information or opine on many subjects that can get an active line pilot fired. If an active pilot promotes a certain course of action, or inaction, he could get fired. If a retiree says the same thing, no repercussions. So why is allowing retiress’s access such a bad thing?. Chess not checkers. Read into some of the posts and try to decipher what is being said.

jetlaggy 09-22-2025 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Vito (Post 3952192)
Joachim, ,
You seem to come across as a bit of a snowflake. Why would you care if a retiree posts on the B&G?. And what do they say that seems to bother you so much?I’ve said it before, a retiree can convey information or opine on many subjects that can get an active line pilot fired. If an active pilot promotes a certain course of action, or inaction, he could get fired. If a retiree says the same thing, no repercussions. So why is allowing retiress’s access such a bad thing?. Chess not checkers. Read into some of the posts and try to decipher what is being said.

A couple retirees ruin it for everyone…spending hours turning everything political. Everyone knows who they are.

Joachim 09-22-2025 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Vito (Post 3952192)
Joachim, ,
You seem to come across as a bit of a snowflake. Why would you care if a retiree posts on the B&G?. And what do they say that seems to bother you so much?I’ve said it before, a retiree can convey information or opine on many subjects that can get an active line pilot fired. If an active pilot promotes a certain course of action, or inaction, he could get fired. If a retiree says the same thing, no repercussions. So why is allowing retiress’s access such a bad thing?. Chess not checkers. Read into some of the posts and try to decipher what is being said.

I was suggesting to have a section reserved for current pilots to encourage those who stay in the woodwork and not banning retirees as a whole. Really, a somewhat stricter moderation policy would probably take care of most issues. As others have said, it is only a few loud barrels who tend to derail discussion and clog up the site as if they own the place.


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