Should folks that leave before retirement be allowed to stay on the B&G too then? Like, say, someone who left to fly for Netjets at 62? Or what about someone who left for Delta at 45? Or someone who left for FedEx after being here for less than a year? All these folks have valuable experience too…

Sure why not. It’s not an anonymous forum so there’s accountability. I’m thinking very few of those folks would participate anyway.

You're being disingenuous. You know full and well that is not an apples to apples comparison.

Yeah, retirement vs. resignation isn't exactly a fuzzy line.

IPA seems to be in danger of going down a dark road as the trouble makers of yesteryear are gaining traction among newer members. They were sufficiently suppressed for many years by a very educated pilot group. That seems to be shifting.

This push to eliminate retired members from participating is the next step in that process.

we are missing the forest looking for a tree. In the gran scheme of things, I believe most IPA members are tired of the same 2 retirees coming up ganging up on anyone who has a different view. I enjoy the input of most the people who are retired, heck most of them are chill as heck on the BG.
then there’s our infamous BK whom I have no clue how he still has a job. The guy is a total disgrace to our group.
The solution is quite simply really, a block button, and heavier moderation.
the one dude yesterday stating that we make more than delta? I mean really? Yes, he’s a data guy and, and he might be correct in the long run, but come on man. It’s giving the company a foot to stand on during negotiations. Stuff like that needs to maybe be moderated more. That’s why it’s always been said, “don’t negotiate in public”.
why BK is gaining traction is due to the fact that the IPA, like any other union, have members that differ in opinions.
I’ve flown with guys who want home basing. Others who want that other type of bidding —for the love of me I forgot the name— , or tons more money cus UPS will never enforce article 13 language.
it’s okay for people to rally behind others who differ opinions.
to me a simple block button or a report button would be beneficial when attacks are becoming personal.
JB attacking a line pilots flight, in a public forum? Really? Why? Why is this allowed? What is the relevance of a IPA pilot that pays dues that has 1 flight that’s in the opinion of a retiree not good, beneficial to us as a group? Why isn’t that moderated? Why is that dude JB given total authority to just disparage anyone who doesn’t drink the IPA cool aid?
then there’s the guy that for everything has to make every post political. FFS man, he needs to go to away already. He seems like a sharp man, has valuable input but has to make everything god damn political. That’s the stuff that needs to be moderated and these people warned to stop or go away.

https://i.imgur.com/N0CmoP5.jpg

Its much better than having our dirty laundry aired 'anonymously' in public here on APC, though.

....what was this thread originally about, again?!?

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA dude well played. I’ll show myself out.

Disagree. Let IPA members read what they please and figure it out. We are a smart group and the majority has proven we will almost always separate fact from BS.

I hate reading some of that stuff too, but beefing up moderation is a slippery slope and should not be the tool that is used.

How do you define that? Someone who leaves early has also "retired" from UPS. Doesn't matter if they take a job somewhere else.

One of the "retired" posters took the VTP before 60, the normal retirement age per contract. Does that mean he resigned?