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icohftb 09-13-2024 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by 6010C (Post 3613347)
tnk is right. To earn the Captain pension one must fly the revenue flight that is usually your “Release to the Line”.

The First Officer pension has the same vesting rules. In the TA extension the “A” plan flat dollar amount is multiplied by years of service. 1 through 30, when it is maxed out.

In the TA extension (2) those First Officer flat-dollar amounts were also increased to this amount multiplied by years of service:

January 2024-Captain $4525 Multiplied by YOS
First Officers $3620 X’s YOS

January 2025- Captain $4650 X’s YOS
First Officers $3720 X’s YOS.

If a crew member for whatever reason retires as a First Officer and retirees at or beyond the full-retirement age of 60 they are eligible for the flat-dollar “A” plan retirement.

Inflation concerns are all valid in my opinion but I am thankful that this leg of my retirement along with my 401k, Roth 401k, “B” Plan retirement fund (12% of earnings up to IRS limits)…full disclosure we do not get “cash over cap…

…are all there to fund my retirement. Thank you EB.

If someone retires early are they still eligible to a pension (at age 60)?

BoilerUP 09-13-2024 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by icohftb (Post 3836883)
If someone retires early are they still eligible to a pension (at age 60)?

Yes.

Early retirement min age is 55; between 55-60 there is an actuarial reduction to the defined benefit OR the defined benefit can be deferred until 60 when it is received with no reduction.

icohftb 09-14-2024 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3836884)
Yes.

Early retirement min age is 55; between 55-60 there is an actuarial reduction to the defined benefit OR the defined benefit can be deferred until 60 when it is received with no reduction.

Thanks for the response. I assume by that if you don't make to 55 you lose that benefit.

Chida 09-14-2024 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by icohftb (Post 3836932)
Thanks for the response. I assume by that if you don't make to 55 you lose that benefit.

You don’t lose the benefit once you’re vested and I don’t remember exactly, but one is either immediately vested or vested after completing 1 yr of service. What would happen if you quit before age 55 is you would receive nothing until your chosen retirement age, that being 55 to 60. The formula for FAE would be used.

Airbum 09-14-2024 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by icohftb (Post 3836932)
Thanks for the response. I assume by that if you don't make to 55 you lose that benefit.


nope. You are fully vested. Guys out on medical still get it

FlyBrown 06-29-2025 02:34 PM

Pension payout at 60 if you quit before?
 

Originally Posted by Airbum (Post 3837031)
nope. You are fully vested. Guys out on medical still get it

if you were to quit at age 45, you can still collect a partial pension at 60? Does the vested amount still payout or is it gone

Airbum 06-30-2025 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by FlyBrown (Post 3924335)
if you were to quit at age 45, you can still collect a partial pension at 60? Does the vested amount still payout or is it gone


The vested amount is yours and does not go away. You simply apply for your pension at age 60 with UPS.

airplanes 06-30-2025 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by FlyBrown (Post 3924335)
if you were to quit at age 45, you can still collect a partial pension at 60? Does the vested amount still payout or is it gone

I encourage everyone senior to me to choose this option

upandaway89 06-30-2025 09:43 AM

Curious to understand the system, as I‘m not familiar with company pensions:
Hypothetically, what would happen to the pension if UPS went out of business/bankruptcy?

BoilerUP 06-30-2025 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by upandaway89 (Post 3924495)
Curious to understand the system, as I‘m not familiar with company pensions:
Hypothetically, what would happen to the pension if UPS went out of business/bankruptcy?

PBGC would provide a vastly reduced benefit.

The world looks a lot different than the passenger carrier bankruptices of the naughts. UPS pilot pensions are tied to UPS management pensions, are well funded and bankruptcy law has been reformed.

"never day never" but the day UPS declares bankrupt I anticipate the world will have bigger issues...

(We currently get a 12% DC alongside the defined benefit pension)


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