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MCJdrvr 08-22-2024 01:24 PM

Drop?
 

Originally Posted by SenorPiloto (Post 3827209)
August 19 class date here. Anybody else?

What was the 19/20 drop?

FTv3 08-23-2024 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by MCJdrvr (Post 3831112)
What was the 19/20 drop?

10 ANC74
2 ONT
3 Airbus
5 SDF 75Z
22 SDF 75.

TRexman 08-23-2024 08:23 AM

seniority
 

Originally Posted by FTv3 (Post 3831281)
10 ANC74
2 ONT
3 Airbus
5 SDF 75Z
22 SDF 75.

How much reserve does a junior pilot sit on the SDF 75Z vs the SDF 75?

Brownose74 08-23-2024 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by TRexman (Post 3831342)
How much reserve does a junior pilot sit on the SDF 75Z vs the SDF 75?

bout them same. You are going to be doing domestic coverage regardless.

Russell Kasse 08-23-2024 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by TRexman (Post 3831342)
How much reserve does a junior pilot sit on the SDF 75Z vs the SDF 75?

Reserve is different here. It really varies bid to bid and by fleet, time of year and other factors. Sometimes it's very senior, sometimes it's not. Point being, it's not like most places where the bottom is all on reserve and there is a seniority target range to "get off" of reserve.

BoilerUP 08-23-2024 11:49 AM

Also, seniority progression at the bottom is more rapid on Domestic (SDF) compared to SDFZ.

CL300 08-23-2024 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by TRexman (Post 3831342)
How much reserve does a junior pilot sit on the SDF 75Z vs the SDF 75?

Movement on the Z is much slower than domestic, it's one of the two most senior FO seats in the company. I've got friends at the bottom of the Z FO list that have been on reserve for well over two years, whereas their domestic classmates are around 65% flying week on, week off as lineholders. As a bottom 10-15 Z guy, the only advantage is you could hold base lines and trade them away (with a certain amount of luck) for longer international trips.

FTv3 08-25-2024 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Brownose74 (Post 3831382)
bout them same. You are going to be doing domestic coverage regardless.

Not really. Z reserve will take you a lot to Canada and Mexico with a bunch of hots (airport standby) thrown in. You’ll also get international stuff especially if you have longer blocks of call days. It’s not like domestic call but there’s some of the same type of stuff.

FTv3 08-25-2024 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by CL300 (Post 3831473)
Movement on the Z is much slower than domestic, it's one of the two most senior FO seats in the company. I've got friends at the bottom of the Z FO list that have been on reserve for well over two years, whereas their domestic classmates are around 65% flying week on, week off as lineholders. As a bottom 10-15 Z guy, the only advantage is you could hold base lines and trade them away (with a certain amount of luck) for longer international trips.

This is accurate! On the L seat side, 30 below is the bare min to have a palatable experience as you can get into the VTO and VTORs, avoid reserve and BTLs.

Other advantages of going domestic vs staying bottom Z are seniority based: better vacation awards, can bid for decent trips that give you the days off you need, holidays off more easily, conflict bidding. Domestic is also getting more and more day flying. Definitely not all doom and gloom.

MaxFire 08-25-2024 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by FTv3 (Post 3831857)
This is accurate! On the L seat side, 30 below is the bare min to have a palatable experience as you can get into the VTO and VTORs, avoid reserve and BTLs.

Other advantages of going domestic vs staying bottom Z are seniority based: better vacation awards, can bid for decent trips that give you the days off you need, holidays off more easily, conflict bidding. Domestic is also getting more and more day flying. Definitely not all doom and gloom.

how much day flying is expected with the new USPS contract? If you had to throw a % on what a domestic line holder would do… 40% day / 60% night…

how long is seat lock too?


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