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tnkrdrvr 01-26-2026 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy23 (Post 3996739)
Thats precisely what theyd argue in that scenario, and very likely win.

I disagree that the company would win that argument, but the problem with the process is that it is unpredictable and therefore somewhat dangerous for us.

METO Guido 01-26-2026 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3996802)
I disagree that the company would win that argument, but the problem with the process is that it is unpredictable and therefore somewhat dangerous for us.

Right. So putting things in perspective..

UPS is a vertically/horizontally integrated transport juggernaut with an airline. FedEx, an airline contracting subs under an iconic brand, logo. If either the Standiford barons or Graceland gentry still seriously intend to operate the long orphaned, 3 motor Christine of freighters, that could conceivably move forward. Why they might tacitly budget or stretch such a project, industry can only guess. Strange business and as you say, forever unpredictable.

ramp9 01-26-2026 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by CardboardCutout (Post 3996716)
Have you considered "Ramp 23" as more appropriate callsign?

Ramp numbers aside, post-peak OT and nonstop JA don’t happen in an overstaffed operation, especially with 15 subcontracted jets on the ramp.

Lowslung 01-26-2026 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by ramp9 (Post 3996861)
Ramp numbers aside, post-peak OT and nonstop JA don’t happen in an overstaffed operation, especially with 15 subcontracted jets on the ramp.

Currently on a line that is well over guarantee with 11 days off. Same for next BP. Not by choice. You would be correct in your assertion that we are NOT overstaffed.

mrvmo 01-26-2026 01:33 PM

Rumor has it all the MD managers have been reassigned off the MD11

wareagle11 01-26-2026 02:06 PM

I’m not an expert in business by any means but this could be a motivation for a big capital expenditure (airplanes).

“The One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA), signed on July 4, 2025, permanently restores 100% bonus depreciation for qualifying property placed in service after January 19, 2025, halting the prior TCJA phase-down. This allows businesses to deduct the full cost of eligible capital equipment, machinery, and specific improvements in the first year.”

Brakes 3 01-26-2026 02:10 PM

ORD MX told us a while back that they were told UPS asked Boeing for an exemption to the 767F production line (similar to what has been announced for the current 777F), and Boeing said “Yeah sure, but you also have to order 777s.”

Interesting rumor for sure.

airplanes 01-26-2026 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Brakes 3 (Post 3996909)
ORD MX told us a while back that they were told UPS asked Boeing for an exemption to the 767F production line (similar to what has been announced for the current 777F), and Boeing said “Yeah sure, but you also have to order 777s.”

Interesting rumor for sure.

767 already got an extension. Boeing just doesn’t want to build them anymore.

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/co...duction-cutoff

Precontact 01-26-2026 02:51 PM

Probably much of nothing, but UPS has been paying to reserve N numbers since 2023 in the 700 series (i.e N701UP). DC-8s were registered to UPS in the 700 and 800 series, but they don't seem to pay for anything in the 800 series these days. Wheels Up has been taking those it seems. https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinq...NNumberInquiry

UPSFO4LIFE 01-26-2026 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by wareagle11 (Post 3995998)
I can’t be the only one that’s heard this rumor that it will be announced the MD is going away at the quarterly earnings conference call on Tuesday. Anyone else hear that?

It’s already been announced the MD is going away. The question is when it goes away?


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