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Cachaco 01-27-2026 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by MD11Simnerd (Post 3997337)
There won't be a new fleet. 74, 76, 75, A-300 is it. Now that the MD has been retired, the "emergency" is over. Scope needs to be enforced and the contract jets gone.

They get 45 days outside of peak (yes, we agreed to this, why?), we are not there yet.

rickair7777 01-27-2026 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Feef (Post 3997175)
Now the question remains on how does UPS get those MD's to the boneyard? We have a retired Boeing (NOT a McD) guy living in our neighborhood and he says his buddies say the proposed fix does not work. If that is the case, FX and KD will follow suit and there are going to be a bunch of MD's needing a lift, or will be taken apart on site, which is extremely costly. Wish nothing but the best for you guys...... CHEERS!

New spherical bearings should work fine, for a very long time. If they replace or inspect the bearings I'd ferry them... empty, minimum fuel, minimum reduced thrust.

That's not saying I'd want to operate them in regular service, without a lot of thorough analysis, and redesigned bearings installed.

METO Guido 01-27-2026 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by 10L 4 Spacing (Post 3997157)
"3 Motor Christine of the Freighters" #Sublime

As you can see, Christine always hooks an Arnie

md11pilot11 01-27-2026 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3997445)
New spherical bearings should work fine, for a very long time. If they replace or inspect the bearings I'd ferry them... empty, minimum fuel, minimum reduced thrust.

That's not saying I'd want to operate them in regular service, without a lot of thorough analysis, and redesigned bearings installed.

There is no way that UPS replaces the bearings with the new part. Replacing both the lugs and the bearings on everything only to scrap them would be really stupid. They will be torn apart where they are or sold off and let someone else pay for the fix. Mechanically, It seems as if Boeing and the FAA already know what to do to get the MD11 flying if companies choose to in the future.

navigatro 01-28-2026 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3997445)
New spherical bearings should work fine, for a very long time. If they replace or inspect the bearings I'd ferry them... empty, minimum fuel, minimum reduced thrust.

That's not saying I'd want to operate them in regular service, without a lot of thorough analysis, and redesigned bearings installed.


there are no replacement bearings. to redesign, manufacture and certify a new bearing would take years and tens of millions - not going to happen.

VacancyBid 01-28-2026 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 3997479)
there are no replacement bearings. to redesign, manufacture and certify a new bearing would take years and tens of millions - not going to happen.

Boeiing published a fix with an updated bearing design years ago. And frankly ... you could just install a new bearing of the old design. It clearly is good for 1 cycle. Short on parts? when you remove the engines in the boneyard, pull the bearing and put it on the next ship.

navigatro 01-28-2026 04:21 AM


Originally Posted by VacancyBid (Post 3997481)
Boeiing published a fix with an updated bearing design years ago. And frankly ... you could just install a new bearing of the old design. It clearly is good for 1 cycle. Short on parts? when you remove the engines in the boneyard, pull the bearing and put it on the next ship.

the bearing is only the tip of the iceberg.

Riverside 01-28-2026 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Cachaco (Post 3997425)
They get 45 days outside of peak (yes, we agreed to this, why?), we are not there yet.

We'll we agreed to waving a lot of scheduling protection during peak as well.

VacancyBid 01-28-2026 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 3997499)
the bearing is only the tip of the iceberg.

Objection: assumes facts not in evidence.

If you wanna expand, please feel free.

FTv3 01-28-2026 09:23 AM

MD is gone, mgrs will repo any birds that make it airborne 1 last time but prob cheaper and easiest to disassemble on site. Either way, worth debating?


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