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Old 10-17-2008, 11:13 AM
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Old 10-18-2008, 08:15 AM
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I think Evergreen operates 3 or 4 of them with 5 planned.

You have to ask yourself what "dream" is being lifted? Answer: the corporate dream of shipping high-tech aerospace jobs to China.
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At my interview, the two Chief pilots' last question to me was "Any questions?'

I said, "Well, all my squadron buddies think I'm applying for a front-company for the CIA...."

They turned and looked at each other, and busted-out laughing. "No, we're not a front-company for the CIA!"
...thats just what they want you to think....

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Anyways, I've flown into Pinal a few times. Pretty neat sight. Got out and walked around a bit. Surprisingly, no one came out to see what my business was.

One trip in particular sticks out in my mind, as I was next in line (yes, a line at Pinal! I know...) to depart behind some MD-80 that had to be empty. That mad dog leaped off the runway and would've given an F-4 a run for its money. Pretty cool. I then did my best to replicate that performance with the might of all the 180hp that I had at my disposal....buzzed down the runway on the deck full tilt and popped it up for a little zoom climb at the end. Then cruised home at 110kts.
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I think Evergreen operates 3 or 4 of them with 5 planned.

You have to ask yourself what "dream" is being lifted? Answer: the corporate dream of shipping high-tech aerospace jobs to China.
Maybe, but I am am pretty sure it is loaded with airfames from Spirit Aerosystems when it lands at McConnell AFB in Wichita. Spirit is more or less Boeing under a name chosen for better global appeal. They renamed it that so they could also make parts for Airbus or what have you. Anyway it flew over my head last night around 6pm when I was going out to dinner near there, so I guess I am not getting any pictures of it .
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Cubby:

That is probably true as well. But I think Boeing's primary intent with the Dreamlifter was to bring 787 parts back from China.

I'm pretty certain the wing and forward fuselage are both being built there.

I'm also pretty sure it is the first Boeing to be made where Boeing did not build the wing or forward fuselage.

As I heard it, Spirit was Boeing selling-off their Wichita facility so as to lose high-priced union labor. Spirit just hired the laid-off Boeing guys. Anyone else have details?

Dreamlifter is a neat airplane. But it unwittingly contributes to the demise of what was once the US' second-strongest export product: aerospace. As more and more of these middle and upper-middle-class jobs are sent overseas, our economic power as a nation--or as pilots--will continue to dwindle.
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Cubby:

That is probably true as well. But I think Boeing's primary intent with the Dreamlifter was to bring 787 parts back from China.

I'm pretty certain the wing and forward fuselage are both being built there.

I'm also pretty sure it is the first Boeing to be made where Boeing did not build the wing or forward fuselage.

As I heard it, Spirit was Boeing selling-off their Wichita facility so as to lose high-priced union labor. Spirit just hired the laid-off Boeing guys. Anyone else have details?

Dreamlifter is a neat airplane. But it unwittingly contributes to the demise of what was once the US' second-strongest export product: aerospace. As more and more of these middle and upper-middle-class jobs are sent overseas, our economic power as a nation--or as pilots--will continue to dwindle.
Agree on every point. Parts for the 787 is probably what's inside the Dreamlifter, or it may also be 787 fuselages for the 787, I am not sure. There are supposedly three of them and they are interesting aircraft.

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