Cubdriver

This is Part 9 of a series of threads on experimental prototypes from the Cessna history books. As far as I know these pictures are as of yet unpublished.

NOTE: I do not have ANY FURTHER DETAILS TO GIVE about these wonderful aircraft!

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Cubdriver

Cubdriver

Dougdrvr

Neat stuff, Cub. I especially like the last photo of the 407 with the three open hangar doors behind it.That's the experimental department at the Military-Twin Division. I used to sit in the grass with my lunch bucket against the building around the corner from the doors. Of course this was after the 407 project was terminated. The fuselage was still sitting in the fenced in bone yard on the north side of the hangar.

Many years later, when I was killing time at the then new Citation Service Center (the hexagonal one) I walked across the ramp to Experimental to visit with my old supervisor and noticed the center engine and top of the T-tail of the mock up of a tri-motored jet that was curtained off in the corner.

I'm surprised you haven't run across some of the early Citation mock up photos or drawings with the sharply pointed nose and horizontal stab mounted mid fin?

Cubdriver

In my day it is also Experimental for any and all civilian jets. No military designs were or are around any more, except for Caravans with rockets and certain FBI planes, and pistons are always over at Pawnee as are certain experimental turboprops (see my thread #10 in this series) although the Caravans are at ICT.

That grass quadrangle between W1/W2 and W7 was still grass in 2009, and I am sure it is still there now.

I worked in W1/W2 near C12 (10?) in Flight Test and never saw that so it must have been gone by 2007. Junk airframes were taken across the street to one of the storage houses. I heard the JPATs protos were still there 2007, or at least one of them was. That was the last military aircraft of any merit Cessna attempted to make. They were more than capable, but Russ Meyers disliked government work and wanted Cessna out of the government contract business. Turned out to be a major mistake later on.

Ha, I am not there now but I sure saw them when I was. Can't have everything. Doesn't the Jeff Rodengen book have a few? I might be able to find a few more. I doubt I have anything very good.

AZFlyer

Looks like you've exceeded your bandwidth limit of photobucket? Maybe try picasa?

Dougdrvr

When I was there(66-67) 1/3 of the hangar was two A-37s (one of which is now in the Air Force Museum). The rest was 310/320/401(2)/421 and an O1E. We had one 411 with water tanks and a spray boom for some interesting icing tests. The test pilot on the 421 wiped the gear off landing at the Pawnee plant and we turned the fuselage into the 441 cabin mock up for one of the big airshows (Paris?) Worked on the 330 (which became the 340) and the wood Citation mock up. Bob Leonard, Jim LaSuer, and Milt Sills were the top test pilots then. Jim, of course, was tragically killed in the A-37. I was gone for a two year stint in Southeast Asia (not by choice) in 68-69 and came back for the first three months of '70. The 330 had crashed, killing the test pilot (whose name I've forgotten) and the second Citation test airplane had just flown. On my last day, in April of '70, Milt Sills smuggled me into the right seat of N500CC for a test flight that I got to actually fly most of, including the landing. He did the barrel rolls