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Old 06-29-2016, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoiler View Post
confidentiality expires before publication of the final list.
no problem publishing the draft imo
I think everyone was pretty clear.. We won't see the draft OR the comments about the draft. Only the final award. Well, except for those who've benefitted from the leaks...maybe someone misunderstood the idea of "confidentiality".
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Old 06-29-2016, 04:16 PM
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You'll still end up one number senior to me. I'm former Eagle AND America West.
But you're not a shameless ALPA shill or a pathetic flow-through, so I think you'll be one number senior to ME.
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Old 06-29-2016, 05:07 PM
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But you're not a shameless ALPA shill or a pathetic flow-through, so I think you'll be one number senior to ME.
No, no. You go ahead of me. I insist...it's only right. Win-win for Airmail.
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Old 06-30-2016, 06:55 AM
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Aaaaah! More delays!

Seniority List Integration Update 6/30

The time period for committee comments on the draft Seniority List Integration (SLI) arbitration has been extended. Last week, the SLI arbitration panel provided a confidential draft award to the three SLI committees and the Company for review and comment. To accommodate party schedules, initial committee comments are now due to the panel no later than July 8, 2016, rather than July 5, 2016. Each party will then have until July 27, 2016, to respond to the submitted comments.

The draft award, the comments on the draft award, and the responses to the comments are confidential and will not be published. Three seniority integration committees — the East Pilots Seniority Integration Committee (EPSIC), the West Merger Committee (West Committee), and the AA Pilots Seniority Integration Committee (AAPSIC) — are participating in the SLI process, each representing the pilots on the respective pre-merger seniority lists (US Airways East list, US Airways West list, and American Airlines list).

APA is neutral and did not advocate for any proposed integrated seniority list (ISL) because it is the collective bargaining agent for all of the pilots flying for the new American Airlines. The APA National Officers and the Board of Directors have not received a copy of the draft award, and APA will not be reviewing the draft award for comment.

The SLI arbitration panel consists of arbitrators Dana Eischen, Ira Jaffe, and M. David Vaughn. SLI arbitration hearings concluded in January 2016, and post-hearing briefs were filed by each of the three seniority integration committees on March 28, 2016.
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APA BOD did not receive... Isn't Fergie still on the BOD.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:30 AM
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There is an unhappy group out there.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO View Post
There is an unhappy group out there.
....and a lot of fingernail biting out here !
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by flyinawa View Post
Aaaaah! More delays!

Seniority List Integration Update 6/30

The time period for committee comments on the draft Seniority List Integration (SLI) arbitration has been extended. Last week, the SLI arbitration panel provided a confidential draft award to the three SLI committees and the Company for review and comment. To accommodate party schedules, initial committee comments are now due to the panel no later than July 8, 2016, rather than July 5, 2016. Each party will then have until July 27, 2016, to respond to the submitted comments.

The draft award, the comments on the draft award, and the responses to the comments are confidential and will not be published. Three seniority integration committees — the East Pilots Seniority Integration Committee (EPSIC), the West Merger Committee (West Committee), and the AA Pilots Seniority Integration Committee (AAPSIC) — are participating in the SLI process, each representing the pilots on the respective pre-merger seniority lists (US Airways East list, US Airways West list, and American Airlines list).

APA is neutral and did not advocate for any proposed integrated seniority list (ISL) because it is the collective bargaining agent for all of the pilots flying for the new American Airlines. The APA National Officers and the Board of Directors have not received a copy of the draft award, and APA will not be reviewing the draft award for comment.

The SLI arbitration panel consists of arbitrators Dana Eischen, Ira Jaffe, and M. David Vaughn. SLI arbitration hearings concluded in January 2016, and post-hearing briefs were filed by each of the three seniority integration committees on March 28, 2016.
As suspected, maybe the counter-comments (rebuttal) might be more involved then the comments of the draft award hence the long period extension..........or perhaps one or more of the arbs has vacation ?
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
As suspected, maybe the counter-comments (rebuttal) might be more involved then the comments of the draft award hence the long period extension..........or perhaps one or more of the arbs has vacation ?

The BOA wasn't even phased by the 9th tossing a grenade into MB. Now that they have made a decision, I don't see a mere "committee" webuttal (Elmer Fudd voice) I don't see a committee being granted permission of verbosity (except for their own consolation).

Definitely just vacation. Committe comments will mostly make for a good bird cage floor covering, but the whole process (complexity and duration) makes everyone go "ooh, ahh".

How come pilots need arbitrators to figure out seniority..(the FAs did a better job negotiating too)? Bob Crandall warned the pilots and said they should figure out seniority for themselves. We shall see. We shall see.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:12 AM
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One committee "Strenuously Objected"! (A Few Good Men, Demi Moore)
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