Soyathink

Lag keep your head in the sand then. Call me a liar, "Shill' "Joke" whatever. Look at a FDR once in a while then. Look once in a while on FDX Aircraft going to Alaska. You will see on your FDR "Ground".

Ernst post regarding Fed Ex Smart Post is another example FDX Smart Post is according to the Fed Ex Website under what you call the "separate company" Fed Ex Ground. Fed Ex Home Delivery is also classified under the Fed Ex Website under "separate Company" Fed Ex Ground. Ernst claimed that to get the same service via UPS it would have to go NDA or 2DA to meet the delivery requirement. UPS ground would have taken longer. I think your a smart guy but never met you. You should know the FDX Ground and before them RPS modeled the hub and spoke system of ground ops after UPS. I have had access to each hub and spoke maps, transit times ect. I'm sure you do too. So explain to me how Ernst's package from a major account "Bass Pro" via FDX Smart Post did not go on a FDX Aircraft but beat UPS Ground Transit time? Both UPS and FDX Ground hubs and transit times are the same? Smart post hubs in Indy, Memphis.
FedEx Hubs - FedEx Air Hubs - FedEx Ground Hubs

It is happening and all you say is follow the law. Fred threatened DC that he would cancel 777 orders if Express status was changed from RLA.

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- FedEx Corp. said Wednesday it expects the U.S. Senate to maintain current labor laws now governing its drivers, while praising a Boeing Co. aircraft order it had once threatened to cancel if Congress didn't bow to its wishes.

Either way FDX is going to change its way of Ground and Express. Non overnight express volume is already going ground. Fred is saying FDX Express is merly using a "Cartage Agent" just like DHL does now in the US. I'd be ****ed if my air volume was going via non union labor via ground but your not. Again why are a number of FDX Ground hubs getting lifts and roller mats? Why are a number of FDX Ground trailers equipped with roller bed floors? These trailers can only haul cans.

I'm ****ed as a UPS shareholder that FDX is stealing UPS accounts like Bass Pro using FDX Smart Post offering improved transit times to them at a lower cost by sending the volume on FDX Aircraft while using their "Separate" ground company to do it. Using "Express" transit times with "Ground" prices to steal market share from UPS. You say just follow the law but this isnt. It is FDX clearly hiding under RLA to steal volume away from UPS. UPS has furloughed close to 100 pilots so far. It has laid off over 1800 other positions. You don't care but you call yourself union

So to those who say to me "Why do you care if your not a UPS Manager?" I care because I'm a shareholder. I care because I have been a part of UPS all my life. I care because three generations of my family have or are employed by UPS. I care because people are losing jobs. Why I care about others losing jobs? I lost mine this year with a wife and two kids. I care because if it wasn't for my UPS stocks I'd be FFFFFFFF'd.

To you FDX Pilots, If the NLA status changes you will see alot more of your air volume going ground like UPS. Fred knows if this happens he will have a turd storm with Couriers, Ground Guys, Home Delivery, and Pilots. This would basically Unionize his workforce which you know he doesn't want. If RLA status doesn't change then you will see more non union FDX Express Couriers transition from full time Employees to part time with no chance to unionize. They would be like UPS' Air Drivers but making a fraction of the wage and probably no health insurance. It will give Fred time to finish equipping Fed Ex Ground to handle more Express. When all the lawsuits are over regarding Fed Ex Ground drivers being IC's or employees. Fred will be positioned to just make them employees. If Fed Ex loses RLA status now then the Union will move in a create a huge problem for Fred. If RLA doesn't change this avoid service interruptions and gives him time to intergrate Ground and Express. So you will have Courers or drivers out of work. You will have more Express volume moving at lower cost ground like UPS. Fred will still have a non union workforce except pilots. Volume on FDX Aircraft will be transferred to the non union lower cost ground as much as possible. This will more than likely be leading to furloughs. When the ALPA goes to negotiate a new contract with Fred. Fred will do just like he did before. He will say I'll lease aircraft and pilots and divert to trucks. The ALPA will be grabbing their ankles then. Think it won't happen? Fred threatened the White House and Congress that he would cancel the 777's if RLA status changed. He has no problem threatening the ALPA.

Win/Win for Fred, No fighting the efforts of UPS to change the RLA Status. No more payouts, defense fighting the FDX Ground Drivers. Non Union Workforce which gives FDX lower costs to steal marketshare from competition. Able to move higher profit express to lower cost trucks reducing costs of aircraft and crews. Seamless intergration of Fed Ex so customers don't continue to have two different drivers. Have the ALPA by the nuts when contract time comes around.

Call me what you want.

Gunter

I am not shipping anything UPS with your pilots furloughed. Paying more for it in some cases because I'm not using Amazon or LL Bean anymore.

If the Brown Bailout passes, I will actively lobby against any UPS shipments by anyone I know. I will even pay the difference for close family. Might start doing that now since I've enjoyed your posts so much, it will be money well spent. This is a big change as I've always supported UPS as a good choice even though I work at purple.

Keep pushing, you might start a wonderful trend.

Gunter

I call you counterproductive.

Roberto

Soyathink,

One problem with these forums (including the private one the UPS union runs) is that the same *itch and gripe posts are made by the same one or 2% of the membership over and over again that are often grossly inaccurate, flat-out wrong, or nothing more than personal diatribes or attacks. I've always wished that more input from informed persons would counter the pure BS that often gets repeated here. You're doing a great job providing information and perspective that is sorely needed.

Soyathink

Gunt,

You call me counter productive All you have contributed is BS

You should google Gunt

FDXLAG

Soya I have not called you anything. Maybe I should have. You make claims that you back up with unsourced and unsigned quotes from "other sites". If you had a picture of Fred Smith personally loading a FDX Air package on a ground truck I do not think it is a violation of the RLA, apparently you do. Great send your picture to someone who GAS.

UPS and FEDEX are both fine companies who offer similar products with slightly different business models. Whine all you want that aint gonna change because you whined. It may change, but it looks like my guy has paid more vig to more washington gangsters than your guys. If it does change I am sure FDX will adapt.

Please note mob talk is no way intended to imply anything about the IBT, I am sure they are over that now.

Soyathink

Lag, So your saying Fred never said anything that I posted? Never threatened to hire scabs when the pilots threatened strike. Memphis never said they would divert volume to over 40,000 trucks?

Both UPS and FDX are fine companies agreed. Both companies will adapt not just FDX. Question is at WHO'S EXPENSE? Right now at UPS its pilots and over 1800 managers and other positions.

FDXLAG

Do not know, do not care, and you haven't proved it. I am sure Fred has said a lot of things but has he violated the RLA.

Soyathink

Lag, How long have you been at FDX?

FDXLAG

A european or an african swallow? Shall we ask each other more meaning less questions?