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Old 11-26-2012, 06:32 AM
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Here's a website with lots and lots of photos of Vintage airliner photos from LAX, lots of Western, American and others.

Jon Proctor » LAX Through The Years
Wow that was really awesome to look at.

And man, those flaps were huge...

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Old 11-26-2012, 06:35 AM
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FTB, Ummm...let me think...I'll take B!

I love going into DCA, but I think our boy Manno is just being a drama queen for his blog. Maybe we should all start saying stuff like that, in our 15 minute Gate Agent P/A's!

"Hi Folks, I don't know about you, but that weather out there looks pretty BAD to me! Did you see that Lightning bolt?! I'm not sure if we should go...but...dag nab it, you paid for a Jet Ride, so we'll give you a Jet Ride! When you get on board, be sure to strap in and hang on tight, this could get ugly. If you have any next of kin, now would be a good time to call them, because all cell phones will need to be turned off, before we try to takeoff, into that storm. Did ya'll see that really great movie, Flight? Yeah, that was me...before I got clean and sober, but I got the shakes now...anyone got a cigarette?"
Did the memo say don't bring up drugs and alcoholism?
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite View Post
DALPA notably silent on this issue...
The company sends out a letter on Saturday of a major holiday asking you to make a PA every now and then and DALPA has failed you at 10AM on Monday after the holiday. The horror!!! They should have brought in every rep, convened a special MEC meeting over the holiday, called in the ALPA lawyers, set up the rat!!!
I mean this is a disaster and ALPA has had no response 1 hour into the first business day after the Holiday. Shame on the union, Shame!!!! Pilots are being done irreparable harm every minute this goes on. Emergency!!!

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Old 11-26-2012, 06:46 AM
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Whenever you see a pilot making the PA at the gate house, stop, and do the APCF secret hand shake signal. It's like how on the RJ with the open mic you could talk to the other guy while he was in the middle of his PA and he could hear you reminding him "don't say [radio edit]".

On that note, I have good news for 80ktsclamp. I was reading multiple political websites today catching up on politics when I ran across this little gem dropped in the middle of it all Emma Stone sex tape | The Daily Caller
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
The company sends out a letter on Saturday of a major holiday asking you to make a PA every now and then and DALPA has failed you at 10AM on Mofter the holiday. The horror!!! They should have brought in every rep, convened a special MEC meeting over the holiday, called in the ALPA lawyers, set up the rat!!!
I mean this is a disaster and ALPA has had no response 1 hour into the first business day after the Holiday. Shame on the union, Shame!!!! Pilots are being done irreparable harm every minute this goes on. Emergency!!!
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Actually Sailing, I was referring to the Flight Ops Bulletin, which has been out for a week now.

And you might want to take a few minutes to actually read the FOB, which far from stating you must make a PA 'every now and then', but REQUIRES you to be in the gate area for an indeterminate amount of time making customer service PA's.

I'm hopeful that we'll hear something soon from our Union, you know, the one we pay dues to in exchange for representation?


If you can't recognize the implications of requiring pilots to perform a non flying duty outside the boundaries of our PWA, then I guess its hopeless to convince you that yes, this is a very important issue and yes, I expect a response from my union, if only in the form of a quick email blast saying "we noticed". Takes 5 minutes... if I were the MEC chair, this would be the #1 fire to put out Monday morning.

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
The company sends out a letter on Saturday of a major holiday asking you to make a PA every now and then and DALPA has failed you at 10AM on Monday after the holiday. The horror!!! They should have brought in every rep, convened a special MEC meeting over the holiday, called in the ALPA lawyers, set up the rat!!!
I mean this is a disaster and ALPA has had no response 1 hour into the first business day after the Holiday. Shame on the union, Shame!!!! Pilots are being done irreparable harm every minute this goes on. Emergency!!!
Oh good so they are going to do something.

I have gone as far as helping put the bags in the airplane in JFK during a meltdown (was my last leg but I'm sure that didn't sway my decision) however I agree with the mob. We shouldn't be told we must make these PA's. I have flown with some really great Captains and they seem to know when they should say something.

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Old 11-26-2012, 07:14 AM
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The old PA policy (FOM 7.8) stated that "repeated apologies should be avoided." The new policy requires you to introduce yourself and "apologize for the inconvenience" and then to "take ownership and apologize as necessary."

So we're now supposed to "take ownership" for the fueling truck that was called for 45 minutes ago, catering who hasn't showed after 3 radio calls, the delay into OUR gate because Alaska hasn't pushed yet out of OUR gate, the WDR that hasn't arrived because the 386 computer crashed again, the lav service truck that hasn't dumped the lavs, and on and on and on.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:34 AM
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"I'm sorry folks. Sorry I have to stop what I'm doing and come out here to make these stupid P/A's every 15 mintues..."
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:41 AM
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From the recent Flt Ops letter:

"In a recent JD Power double-blind study in a Wal Mart parking lot, 9 out of 15 people preferred Pilots In Hats Doing Things over Kittens Playing With Yarn and Monster Trucks Breaking Stuff... Of the 6 remaining subjects, 3 were unintelligible, 2 attempted to eat the survey and one may or may not have been human."
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post

The company sends out a letter on Saturday of a major holiday asking you to make a PA every now and then and DALPA has failed you at 10AM on Monday after the holiday. The horror!!! They should have brought in every rep, convened a special MEC meeting over the holiday, called in the ALPA lawyers, set up the rat!!!
I mean this is a disaster and ALPA has had no response 1 hour into the first business day after the Holiday. Shame on the union, Shame!!!! Pilots are being done irreparable harm every minute this goes on. Emergency!!!

Sailing,

The above would be a little excessive..... we probably should hold the Rat in reserve. Not fire all our guns at once, keep our powder dry etc, etc and so forth.

Seriously though, I do agree with you the guys are making a little too much of this (except for Timbo's recommended Pa - Funny stuff right there) must be a slow day on APC.

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