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Old 11-26-2012, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite View Post
Maybe I'm the only one making a big deal about this, and maybe 6 days isn't a lot of time for DALPA to get off its duff and realize that mgmt just stepped over a big red line and basically flipped the bird to our contract as they unilaterally draft us as unpaid assistant gate agents. No thank you very much!

Really just 2 ways to deal with something like this. Ignore it, and accept the consequences, or tell our union to kindly inquire as to why they were left out of the loop on the latest significant change to our working conditions.
I'd think that's where ALPA would come in ... when there is disciplinary action, or a an issue that can be grieved. Otherwise, isn't this kind of speculative.

A few weeks ago the weather in XXX went down and the airport was doing construction which disabled the sole ILS. In that case, the Captain's explanation about the delay and eventual cancellation was magnitudes better than the Gate Agent could have given. His PA included the weather required for our dispatch, so the more technically oriented passengers could monitor the situation in real time. They knew we needed visibility of at least 1 and 1/2.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:37 AM
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So if I can win both the $49 million dollar lottery and the $425 million dollar lottery, then I should have enough money to start an airline.
No, you can buy yourself a controlling interest in HA and install yourself as #1 on the seniority list. After all, it would be YOUR airline.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr View Post
"This bulletin lays out guidelines for
coordination with Airport Customer Service (ACS) agents and gives general
guidance on announcement content."

It looks like more of a guideline than a rule, at least for now. It would be a non flying duty, kind of like saying good bye to the pax as they deplane.
Wrong. Yes - those are the guidelines for the gate announcements you SHOULD now make- from the START of the delay and every 15 mins thereafter AT THE GATE, regardless if the plane's even there. Thats what it says.

SHOULD- The word “should” is used to indicate that compliance is
expected. Deviations are permitted only where an operational requirement
exists.

So either do it or you're deliberately violating the FOM.

I'm all for going the extra mile, even making gate PAs. Teamwork. But once you make this POLICY, now its a whole different animal.

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr View Post
It looks like more of a guideline than a rule, at least for now. It would be a non flying duty, kind of like saying good bye to the pax as they deplane.
There is a will and should...not a guideline...do the pax really want a pa every 7 minutes?

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr View Post


"This bulletin lays out guidelines for
coordination with Airport Customer Service (ACS) agents and gives general
guidance on announcement content."

It looks like more of a guideline than a rule, at least for now. It would be a non flying duty, kind of like saying good bye to the pax as they deplane.

Yep, the old guideline vs a rule issues raises its ugly head once again:

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad View Post
No, you can buy yourself a controlling interest in HA and install yourself as #1 on the seniority list. After all, it would be YOUR airline.
And I'll own the seniority list.

that's an idea. but i think a start up is better. one that is ULCC but with all of the frills of a foreign legacy, except the frills are paid for via advertising on the outside and inside of the plane... and you pay some... and we use secondary airports without all of the delays!!!! like St Augustine instead of Jacksonville, Lakeland instead of Orlando, that little airport with the runway and no facilities you always see on the Erlin- instead of ATL, Toledo instead of Detroit, Scranton instead of New York, Springfield instead of Chicago, Chico instead of SFO, Bakersfield instead of LAX, Abilene instead of Dallas, Cheyenne instead of DEN.

Should work out great.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK View Post
Can we please get this thread back on track? I rely upon this thread and Fox News Talk to keep me fair and balanced in my opinions.

Back to harassing Unical and Alaska pilots... Lates.
Exactly, what track has this thread ever been on?

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:31 AM
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Sign in for trip in the A concourse lounge in ATL. Flight departs out of C53 but the plane is delayed and will be arriving an hour late.

New FOM policy requires me to go to the gate and spend an hour making PAs every 15 minutes instead of relaxing in the lounge for the extra hour.

In a word, NO.

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Old 11-26-2012, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hookshot123 View Post
Sign in for trip in the A concourse lounge in ATL. Flight departs out of C53 but the plane is delayed and will be arriving an hour late.

New FOM policy requires me to go to the gate and spend an hour making PAs every 15 minutes instead of relaxing in the lounge for the extra hour.

In a word, NO.

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Ahh finally. Somebody gets it. That's all I wanted, I can die now. I know when I've annoyed Sailing, I've exceeded my post limit for the week. Cheers!
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Actually a 2010 hire can hold the 7ER.
True, but Alaska Airlines doesn't have 757/767's. I was trying to find out just what AS newhire could hold after one year that takes almost a decade to hold here. The 7ER is actually more junior then the 737.
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