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Old 09-27-2012 | 04:25 AM
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Delta keeps select small markets through new Silver Airways partnership and adjusts LaGuardia flying | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Maybe this has already been discussed, but is this Silver thing a new way around scope?


Turboprops now count against the total number of aircraft operated. I would have to reread section 1 to see if there is a exemption for under 50 seats but don't have time at the moment. I am sure someone else can check but my understanding is that the 340's would count toward the 425 airframe limit.
Old 09-27-2012 | 04:34 AM
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Turboprops now count against the total number of aircraft operated. I would have to reread section 1 to see if there is a exemption for under 50 seats but don't have time at the moment. I am sure someone else can check but my understanding is that the 340's would count toward the 425 airframe limit.
Even as a 'codeshare' operation?

If it matters they are not repainting in DAL colors. Look for the black and silver 340's in ATL with pink engines.
Old 09-27-2012 | 04:43 AM
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There's an indoc class right now with 15 + Mil leave and medical returnees on it right now. With 250 pilots on Mil leave projected in March, could a delay in hiring be affected by the return of some of these folks?
Old 09-27-2012 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Turboprops now count against the total number of aircraft operated. I would have to reread section 1 to see if there is a exemption for under 50 seats but don't have time at the moment. I am sure someone else can check but my understanding is that the 340's would count toward the 425 airframe limit.
They are permitted and do not count towards the airframe limit. The 340s are 34 seaters but they are certified to 37 and MTOW is 29,000 lbs. So they fit 46.b:

46. “Permitted aircraft type” means:
b. a propeller-driven or turboprop aircraft certificated in the United States for 37 or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 37,000 or fewer pounds,
Old 09-27-2012 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Turboprops now count against the total number of aircraft operated. I would have to reread section 1 to see if there is a exemption for under 50 seats but don't have time at the moment. I am sure someone else can check but my understanding is that the 340's would count toward the 425 airframe limit.
I believe since they will be operated with 37 seats or less & a MGTOW of less then 37,000 lbs they will not count against the 425 cap.
Old 09-27-2012 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
There's an indoc class right now with 15 + Mil leave and medical returnees on it right now. With 250 pilots on Mil leave projected in March, could a delay in hiring be affected by the return of some of these folks?
It will have a effect on hiring equal to the number that come back. If all 250 return then it will reduce the need to hire by 250. I spoke with two Jet Blue Captains recently who are coming back. I think more will come back then expected.
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Originally Posted by dalad
There's an indoc class right now with 15 + Mil leave and medical returnees on it right now. With 250 pilots on Mil leave projected in March, could a delay in hiring be affected by the return of some of these folks?
As I understand, while there some mil guys coming back in your class, there are probably similar amounts taking mil leave. Someone said the number of pilots on mil leave is somewhat of a steady number - some come back, some go out, etc.
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I liked this part, "Elsewhere around its system Delta is shifting 14 weekly flights to Quebec from its Detroit hub to New York, and plans to launch winter seasonal service from Columbus, Ohio and Indianapolis, Indiana to Orlando."

Maybe this flights to Orlando thing is a trend. We could taking some of the retiring 757s, put all coach seats in them and fly them to and from Orlando. Maybe start a base there. I noticed there a wing of gates in our terminal in MCO just vacated by Airtran, maybe they are available. Get some neat uniforms for the FAs and little bricks to hand out as snacks. What to call it.. what to call it...
Old 09-27-2012 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg52
Good job ALPA! Another jumpseat denied due to the jumpseater wearing a DPA lanyard............ So proud to be a member of that union

Wouldn't this be an issue that a base Rep would deal with? If true, I'm sure they are working the issue.
Old 09-27-2012 | 05:33 AM
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13.2% drop in durable goods in August.

As one pundit said it, worst decrease in almost four years, and a large signal that the American economy is diving into a recession.

So I guess the economy is crashing? -717
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