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Old 09-26-2012, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Captain- "Ummmm, I don't know about that….." ……….. First Officer-"F*&^ him, he should have bought a ticket!" ………. Me-"He is a fellow Delta pilot, traveling with 4 children." ………. F/O-"Like I said, F*&^ him! He could have bought a ticket, just like any other passenger." …….. Captain-"I'm sorry, but I can't allow jeans in the cockpit." ……..Me- "Thanks anyway, I figured it couldn't hurt to ask." Although I wish the Captain was an outside-the-box thinker, I respect his decision. However, I was blown away by the loser in the right seat. Perhaps he was flexing his 5' 6" Napolean complex, but what a dork. I can guarantee he will not get the jump seat on any flight I am working.


Well the simple, obvious fix would be, the tool in the blue jeans sits in coach with the other guy's 4 kids, and the Dad, with the khaki's, sits in the jumpseat!

Never non rev in jeans, you tool! Oh, and Ditto on the tool in the right seat! What an ass.
I don't think it counts as karma but the more things change the more they stay the same. Someone here must have the complete Awesome First Officer thread saved somewhere?
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:01 PM
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I would have opened my suitcase and loaned the guy a pair of slacks. Nothing in the rule book says they have to fit.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:53 PM
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Seriously, who works for an airline and non-revs in jeans? Then to post a story about it as if there is any point (ok, FO toolage noted) besides you're too dumb to commute/non-rev/jumpseat/whatever in slacks?
I mean, you might as well start off the post by saying, "I took my earbuds out because I couldn't hear what the captain was saying to me, and scratched my soul patch a bit in confusion when it became apparent he wasn't gonna let me on the JS. Maybe he didn't like my "Legalize MaryJane" T shirt?"
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:03 AM
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Delta keeps select small markets through new Silver Airways partnership and adjusts LaGuardia flying | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Maybe this has already been discussed, but is this Silver thing a new way around scope?

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Old 09-27-2012, 04:25 AM
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Delta keeps select small markets through new Silver Airways partnership and adjusts LaGuardia flying | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Maybe this has already been discussed, but is this Silver thing a new way around scope?


Turboprops now count against the total number of aircraft operated. I would have to reread section 1 to see if there is a exemption for under 50 seats but don't have time at the moment. I am sure someone else can check but my understanding is that the 340's would count toward the 425 airframe limit.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Turboprops now count against the total number of aircraft operated. I would have to reread section 1 to see if there is a exemption for under 50 seats but don't have time at the moment. I am sure someone else can check but my understanding is that the 340's would count toward the 425 airframe limit.
Even as a 'codeshare' operation?

If it matters they are not repainting in DAL colors. Look for the black and silver 340's in ATL with pink engines.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:43 AM
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There's an indoc class right now with 15 + Mil leave and medical returnees on it right now. With 250 pilots on Mil leave projected in March, could a delay in hiring be affected by the return of some of these folks?
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Turboprops now count against the total number of aircraft operated. I would have to reread section 1 to see if there is a exemption for under 50 seats but don't have time at the moment. I am sure someone else can check but my understanding is that the 340's would count toward the 425 airframe limit.
They are permitted and do not count towards the airframe limit. The 340s are 34 seaters but they are certified to 37 and MTOW is 29,000 lbs. So they fit 46.b:

46. “Permitted aircraft type” means:
b. a propeller-driven or turboprop aircraft certificated in the United States for 37 or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 37,000 or fewer pounds,
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Turboprops now count against the total number of aircraft operated. I would have to reread section 1 to see if there is a exemption for under 50 seats but don't have time at the moment. I am sure someone else can check but my understanding is that the 340's would count toward the 425 airframe limit.
I believe since they will be operated with 37 seats or less & a MGTOW of less then 37,000 lbs they will not count against the 425 cap.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
There's an indoc class right now with 15 + Mil leave and medical returnees on it right now. With 250 pilots on Mil leave projected in March, could a delay in hiring be affected by the return of some of these folks?
It will have a effect on hiring equal to the number that come back. If all 250 return then it will reduce the need to hire by 250. I spoke with two Jet Blue Captains recently who are coming back. I think more will come back then expected.
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