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Old 09-26-2012 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluto
If I understand it right, you can still swap with friends, but in order to swap back it has to go through open time first.
I'm just wondering how they can avoid (software-wise) a 3 friend swap trip parking operation. I swap to you, you swap to him, he swaps back to me. I know what the contract says, but time will tell.
Old 09-26-2012 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg52
Good job ALPA! Another jumpseat denied due to the jumpseater wearing a DPA lanyard............ So proud to be a member of that union
Full circle journey for one of the DPA founding members

I non-rev home to Atlanta, yesterday, after a long weekend with my girlfriend and he daughter in [Content Deleted]. The standby list was looking horrible for the [Content Deleted] flight. I noticed a short-haired non-rev, with 4 kids. …..I went up to the desk and asked the agent to put me on the jumpseat, then I headed down the jetway to talk with the captain. The conversation went as follows: ……….ME - "Good afternoon Captain. My name is Richard, I am a Delta pilot, and I am supposed to be a non-rev in back. There are lots of folks up at the gate trying to non-rev, including a pilot and his 4 kids, so I figured I would jumpseat, to free up a seat for another employee. However, I do have a shirt with a collar, but no dress pants. I only have these jeans I am wearing. "…………. Captain- "Ummmm, I don't know about that….." ……….. First Officer-"F*&^ him, he should have bought a ticket!" ………. Me-"He is a fellow Delta pilot, traveling with 4 children." ………. F/O-"Like I said, F*&^ him! He could have bought a ticket, just like any other passenger." …….. Captain-"I'm sorry, but I can't allow jeans in the cockpit." ……..Me- "Thanks anyway, I figured it couldn't hurt to ask." Although I wish the Captain was an outside-the-box thinker, I respect his decision. However, I was blown away by the loser in the right seat. Perhaps he was flexing his 5' 6" Napolean complex, but what a dork. I can guarantee he will not get the jump seat on any flight I am working.
Old 09-26-2012 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I'm just wondering how they can avoid (software-wise) a 3 friend swap trip parking operation. I swap to you, you swap to him, he swaps back to me. I know what the contract says, but time will tell.
Because it will have to be awarded to a pilot via the PCS process to go back to the original pilot.... A "second swap" does not qualify as a PCS award.
Old 09-26-2012 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
No. I'm stating that TC has lost all credibility.
Gotcha-agreed. Time for new leadership.
Old 09-26-2012 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I'm just wondering how they can avoid (software-wise) a 3 friend swap trip parking operation. I swap to you, you swap to him, he swaps back to me. I know what the contract says, but time will tell.
So now I have to have two friends!? Do you have any idea how hard it was to find one friend?
Old 09-26-2012 | 07:42 PM
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Captain- "Ummmm, I don't know about that….." ……….. First Officer-"F*&^ him, he should have bought a ticket!" ………. Me-"He is a fellow Delta pilot, traveling with 4 children." ………. F/O-"Like I said, F*&^ him! He could have bought a ticket, just like any other passenger." …….. Captain-"I'm sorry, but I can't allow jeans in the cockpit." ……..Me- "Thanks anyway, I figured it couldn't hurt to ask." Although I wish the Captain was an outside-the-box thinker, I respect his decision. However, I was blown away by the loser in the right seat. Perhaps he was flexing his 5' 6" Napolean complex, but what a dork. I can guarantee he will not get the jump seat on any flight I am working.


Well the simple, obvious fix would be, the tool in the blue jeans sits in coach with the other guy's 4 kids, and the Dad, with the khaki's, sits in the jumpseat!

Never non rev in jeans, you tool! Oh, and Ditto on the tool in the right seat! What an ass.
Old 09-26-2012 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Captain- "Ummmm, I don't know about that….." ……….. First Officer-"F*&^ him, he should have bought a ticket!" ………. Me-"He is a fellow Delta pilot, traveling with 4 children." ………. F/O-"Like I said, F*&^ him! He could have bought a ticket, just like any other passenger." …….. Captain-"I'm sorry, but I can't allow jeans in the cockpit." ……..Me- "Thanks anyway, I figured it couldn't hurt to ask." Although I wish the Captain was an outside-the-box thinker, I respect his decision. However, I was blown away by the loser in the right seat. Perhaps he was flexing his 5' 6" Napolean complex, but what a dork. I can guarantee he will not get the jump seat on any flight I am working.


Well the simple, obvious fix would be, the tool in the blue jeans sits in coach with the other guy's 4 kids, and the Dad, with the khaki's, sits in the jumpseat!

Never non rev in jeans, you tool! Oh, and Ditto on the tool in the right seat! What an ass.
I don't think it counts as karma but the more things change the more they stay the same. Someone here must have the complete Awesome First Officer thread saved somewhere?
Old 09-26-2012 | 09:01 PM
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I would have opened my suitcase and loaned the guy a pair of slacks. Nothing in the rule book says they have to fit.
Old 09-26-2012 | 09:53 PM
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Seriously, who works for an airline and non-revs in jeans? Then to post a story about it as if there is any point (ok, FO toolage noted) besides you're too dumb to commute/non-rev/jumpseat/whatever in slacks?
I mean, you might as well start off the post by saying, "I took my earbuds out because I couldn't hear what the captain was saying to me, and scratched my soul patch a bit in confusion when it became apparent he wasn't gonna let me on the JS. Maybe he didn't like my "Legalize MaryJane" T shirt?"
Old 09-27-2012 | 04:03 AM
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Delta keeps select small markets through new Silver Airways partnership and adjusts LaGuardia flying | CAPA - Centre for Aviation

Maybe this has already been discussed, but is this Silver thing a new way around scope?

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