Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-03-2012, 09:01 AM
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Used to be that being an airline pilot meant being able to indulge in private flying, own your own plane, teach your kids to fly, etc...
Nowadays it's either kids or a plane, but not both.
Nowadays it's either kids or a plane, but not both.
10-03-2012, 09:36 AM
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It's good to know that all that Alaska feed will now feed Korean Air, instead of our Pacific ops... I guess this explains the lack of widebody orders!
Just take a look at what's happened in NYC to our transatlantic ops, and you'll get a taste of what's to come out in the Pacific. So, without further ado, here's the answer to the HND problem, as I predicted...
Delta Air Lines Inc. and Korean Air Lines Co. are in talks to expand a decade-old marketing joint venture that has been overtaken by closer alliances among their rivals.
The discussions signal that relations between the second and third largest carriers across the Pacific have warmed since Delta's failed attempt two years ago to buy a stake in Japan Airlines Co., which would have shifted Delta's emphasis to Tokyo at the expense of Seoul. The Delta-JAL talks fell apart after the Japanese carrier opted to remain in an alliance with Delta rival American Airlines.
The airline industry is increasingly moving away from loose global alliances toward deeper pacts between individual airlines that, with regulators' blessing, have allowed them to coordinate fares, flight schedules and marketing, and pool revenues and profit.
Though Delta has pursued individual alliances on trans-Atlantic routes, it doesn't have the same level of cooperation on routes to and from Asia enjoyed by some members of the rival Oneworld and Star airline marketing alliances, despite a small deal with Virgin Australia Holdings Ltd.
John Jackson, Vice President Marketing for the Americas at Korean Air, said talks are under way with Delta to expand their existing cooperation, which now includes the ability to cross-sell seats on each others' flights and some limited use of the antitrust immunity granted by competition authorities in 2002.
"[The talks] have become more active," said Mr. Jackson, who declined in recent interview to detail the scope of the discussions.
Just take a look at what's happened in NYC to our transatlantic ops, and you'll get a taste of what's to come out in the Pacific. So, without further ado, here's the answer to the HND problem, as I predicted...
Delta Air Lines Inc. and Korean Air Lines Co. are in talks to expand a decade-old marketing joint venture that has been overtaken by closer alliances among their rivals.
The discussions signal that relations between the second and third largest carriers across the Pacific have warmed since Delta's failed attempt two years ago to buy a stake in Japan Airlines Co., which would have shifted Delta's emphasis to Tokyo at the expense of Seoul. The Delta-JAL talks fell apart after the Japanese carrier opted to remain in an alliance with Delta rival American Airlines.
The airline industry is increasingly moving away from loose global alliances toward deeper pacts between individual airlines that, with regulators' blessing, have allowed them to coordinate fares, flight schedules and marketing, and pool revenues and profit.
Though Delta has pursued individual alliances on trans-Atlantic routes, it doesn't have the same level of cooperation on routes to and from Asia enjoyed by some members of the rival Oneworld and Star airline marketing alliances, despite a small deal with Virgin Australia Holdings Ltd.
John Jackson, Vice President Marketing for the Americas at Korean Air, said talks are under way with Delta to expand their existing cooperation, which now includes the ability to cross-sell seats on each others' flights and some limited use of the antitrust immunity granted by competition authorities in 2002.
"[The talks] have become more active," said Mr. Jackson, who declined in recent interview to detail the scope of the discussions.
10-03-2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
It's good to know that all that Alaska feed will now feed Korean Air, instead of our Pacific ops... I guess this explains the lack of widebody orders!
Just take a look at what's happened in NYC to our transatlantic ops, and you'll get a taste of what's to come out in the Pacific. So, without further ado, here's the answer to the HND problem, as I predicted...
Delta Air Lines Inc. and Korean Air Lines Co. are in talks to expand a decade-old marketing joint venture that has been overtaken by closer alliances among their rivals.
The discussions signal that relations between the second and third largest carriers across the Pacific have warmed since Delta's failed attempt two years ago to buy a stake in Japan Airlines Co., which would have shifted Delta's emphasis to Tokyo at the expense of Seoul. The Delta-JAL talks fell apart after the Japanese carrier opted to remain in an alliance with Delta rival American Airlines.
The airline industry is increasingly moving away from loose global alliances toward deeper pacts between individual airlines that, with regulators' blessing, have allowed them to coordinate fares, flight schedules and marketing, and pool revenues and profit.
Though Delta has pursued individual alliances on trans-Atlantic routes, it doesn't have the same level of cooperation on routes to and from Asia enjoyed by some members of the rival Oneworld and Star airline marketing alliances, despite a small deal with Virgin Australia Holdings Ltd.
John Jackson, Vice President Marketing for the Americas at Korean Air, said talks are under way with Delta to expand their existing cooperation, which now includes the ability to cross-sell seats on each others' flights and some limited use of the antitrust immunity granted by competition authorities in 2002.
"[The talks] have become more active," said Mr. Jackson, who declined in recent interview to detail the scope of the discussions.
Just take a look at what's happened in NYC to our transatlantic ops, and you'll get a taste of what's to come out in the Pacific. So, without further ado, here's the answer to the HND problem, as I predicted...
Delta Air Lines Inc. and Korean Air Lines Co. are in talks to expand a decade-old marketing joint venture that has been overtaken by closer alliances among their rivals.
The discussions signal that relations between the second and third largest carriers across the Pacific have warmed since Delta's failed attempt two years ago to buy a stake in Japan Airlines Co., which would have shifted Delta's emphasis to Tokyo at the expense of Seoul. The Delta-JAL talks fell apart after the Japanese carrier opted to remain in an alliance with Delta rival American Airlines.
The airline industry is increasingly moving away from loose global alliances toward deeper pacts between individual airlines that, with regulators' blessing, have allowed them to coordinate fares, flight schedules and marketing, and pool revenues and profit.
Though Delta has pursued individual alliances on trans-Atlantic routes, it doesn't have the same level of cooperation on routes to and from Asia enjoyed by some members of the rival Oneworld and Star airline marketing alliances, despite a small deal with Virgin Australia Holdings Ltd.
John Jackson, Vice President Marketing for the Americas at Korean Air, said talks are under way with Delta to expand their existing cooperation, which now includes the ability to cross-sell seats on each others' flights and some limited use of the antitrust immunity granted by competition authorities in 2002.
"[The talks] have become more active," said Mr. Jackson, who declined in recent interview to detail the scope of the discussions.
10-03-2012, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I went too see how much it'd be to rent a Cessna 172 to take the kids flying one day. $150-$170/hr and $50/hr for cfi. hmmm... and it's a 5 hour checkout if it's a Cessna 172 with Garmin 1000. 5 hours? yes, because it has efis. oh? they told me going from steam gauges to efis would take a while.
couple hours of just sitting in plane learning the G1000 is time well spent though. its quite nifty!
10-03-2012, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
It's good to know that all that Alaska feed will now feed Korean Air, instead of our Pacific ops... I guess this explains the lack of widebody orders!
Just take a look at what's happened in NYC to our transatlantic ops, and you'll get a taste of what's to come out in the Pacific. So, without further ado, here's the answer to the HND problem, as I predicted...
Delta Air Lines Inc. and Korean Air Lines Co. are in talks to expand a decade-old marketing joint venture that has been overtaken by closer alliances among their rivals.
The discussions signal that relations between the second and third largest carriers across the Pacific have warmed since Delta's failed attempt two years ago to buy a stake in Japan Airlines Co., which would have shifted Delta's emphasis to Tokyo at the expense of Seoul. The Delta-JAL talks fell apart after the Japanese carrier opted to remain in an alliance with Delta rival American Airlines.
The airline industry is increasingly moving away from loose global alliances toward deeper pacts between individual airlines that, with regulators' blessing, have allowed them to coordinate fares, flight schedules and marketing, and pool revenues and profit.
Though Delta has pursued individual alliances on trans-Atlantic routes, it doesn't have the same level of cooperation on routes to and from Asia enjoyed by some members of the rival Oneworld and Star airline marketing alliances, despite a small deal with Virgin Australia Holdings Ltd.
John Jackson, Vice President Marketing for the Americas at Korean Air, said talks are under way with Delta to expand their existing cooperation, which now includes the ability to cross-sell seats on each others' flights and some limited use of the antitrust immunity granted by competition authorities in 2002.
"[The talks] have become more active," said Mr. Jackson, who declined in recent interview to detail the scope of the discussions.
Just take a look at what's happened in NYC to our transatlantic ops, and you'll get a taste of what's to come out in the Pacific. So, without further ado, here's the answer to the HND problem, as I predicted...
Delta Air Lines Inc. and Korean Air Lines Co. are in talks to expand a decade-old marketing joint venture that has been overtaken by closer alliances among their rivals.
The discussions signal that relations between the second and third largest carriers across the Pacific have warmed since Delta's failed attempt two years ago to buy a stake in Japan Airlines Co., which would have shifted Delta's emphasis to Tokyo at the expense of Seoul. The Delta-JAL talks fell apart after the Japanese carrier opted to remain in an alliance with Delta rival American Airlines.
The airline industry is increasingly moving away from loose global alliances toward deeper pacts between individual airlines that, with regulators' blessing, have allowed them to coordinate fares, flight schedules and marketing, and pool revenues and profit.
Though Delta has pursued individual alliances on trans-Atlantic routes, it doesn't have the same level of cooperation on routes to and from Asia enjoyed by some members of the rival Oneworld and Star airline marketing alliances, despite a small deal with Virgin Australia Holdings Ltd.
John Jackson, Vice President Marketing for the Americas at Korean Air, said talks are under way with Delta to expand their existing cooperation, which now includes the ability to cross-sell seats on each others' flights and some limited use of the antitrust immunity granted by competition authorities in 2002.
"[The talks] have become more active," said Mr. Jackson, who declined in recent interview to detail the scope of the discussions.
10-03-2012, 10:04 AM
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Korean Air Widebody Fleet
A380 5, + 5 Orders
747-400 39
747-800F 2, +5 Orders
747-800I +5 Orders
A300, 330 29, +7 Orders
777-200/300 32, +6 Orders
787-900 +10 Orders
A380 5, + 5 Orders
747-400 39
747-800F 2, +5 Orders
747-800I +5 Orders
A300, 330 29, +7 Orders
777-200/300 32, +6 Orders
787-900 +10 Orders
10-03-2012, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
Shop around, you should be able to find an older 172 for ~$110-120. Still expensive, yeah. Five hour checkout for any 172 is insanity, can dang near solo a new student in that time! On the other hand...depending on how long since you've flown a small plane, might take a few hours to get you to stop flaring at 50 feet! 
Flying clubs are the way to go for economical flying these days. Better yet, get to know an older bugsmasher pilot who's not getting up as much and volunteer to exercise his airplane occasionally in exchange for safety pilot/CFI work. There are a ton of 70-80 yr old airplane owners who have lost their medical or are barely holding onto it.
I'm in one small informal flying club around a '49 Cessna 170A. It's $50/hr dry, bout $85-90/hr once you put gas in it. I also have a 1/12 share in a '46 Piper Cub, very basic 75 hp with no electrical system...only $50, wet, per tach hour on a slow-running tach. Doesn't go anywhere fast but you can't beat the fun for the money! Long story short, if you're looking to get back into flying small planes, yeah, it's more expensive than you remember, but you can do a lot better than renting a brand new $300k C172
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Flying clubs are the way to go for economical flying these days. Better yet, get to know an older bugsmasher pilot who's not getting up as much and volunteer to exercise his airplane occasionally in exchange for safety pilot/CFI work. There are a ton of 70-80 yr old airplane owners who have lost their medical or are barely holding onto it.
I'm in one small informal flying club around a '49 Cessna 170A. It's $50/hr dry, bout $85-90/hr once you put gas in it. I also have a 1/12 share in a '46 Piper Cub, very basic 75 hp with no electrical system...only $50, wet, per tach hour on a slow-running tach. Doesn't go anywhere fast but you can't beat the fun for the money! Long story short, if you're looking to get back into flying small planes, yeah, it's more expensive than you remember, but you can do a lot better than renting a brand new $300k C172
.Jungle, where is your flying club located? I'd love to get into one, for some 'economical' flying. (if there is such a thing!)
And for you Honey Boo Boo fans, get ready, South Park is going to do it tonight!
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10-03-2012, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
I got it, how about Boobs On The Move?
Cap it off with Epic Underboob on the Move!!
Cap it off with Epic Underboob on the Move!!
10-03-2012, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Would someone explain to me again why I got a violation. Mine didn't even move!
10-03-2012, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Would someone explain to me again why I got a violation. Mine didn't even move!
If you pm me the post in question, I might be able to explain it.
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