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Old 02-02-2012, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy View Post
The CAL system allowed reserves to pickup trips in that window the day prior, but the nicer part of their system was that lineholders could take a trip from a reserve guy even after it was assigned. I can't remember all the specifics, but it was nice and I did all the time. If it was within 12 hours they would call the reserve guy and if he didn't want to do the trip, they pulled it from them and it was all yours. I think outside of 12 hours it was yours regardless of what the resreve guy wanted.

There are lots of ways we can continue to improve the reserve system here that will benefit lineholders as well. I'm actually very impressed with the improvements so far, although they may not be perfect. The bucket system, credit for SC, and the entire reserve availability list are great things to get outside of section 6. Can't wait for the ability to higher your RAW score. I also think we could still allow drops and swaps up to 12 hours prior to report if reserve coverage is good. That would be nice.
Am I missing something with the new system? I see on the reserve availability list that some people have already completed a short call, but I don't really see "credit" for it. I mean, in theory, if they have done a short call and are junior to me, shouldn't the "credit" for their short call knock them below me in line to get called for a trip? (Raise their 'raw' score) If they have done 2 SC's and I have done 1 shouldn't I be next in line to get assigned a trip because they have more SC's than me...thus a higher raw???

Now i'm confused even more
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer View Post
Any flying on X days is towards guarantee, but that's it. No premium pay, no days off back.
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IIf you volunteer to fly on X-days, it's out of your hide. You get credit for the whole trip towards your guarantee and RAW score--but nothing above the guarantee and no payback X-days (those come with green slips). Not much there for you...
Thanks guys! Add that to the to list of things I wish I knew yesterday Learning by my mistakes gets tough.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
FTB, where is that? I need to replace my old clunker and those prices look like something I can work with. I don't want to shoot too high since I might not be upgrading before age 65...
You make me laugh. I didn't notice the price.

I'm not laughing at your plight though.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
FTB, where is that? I need to replace my old clunker and those prices look like something I can work with. I don't want to shoot too high since I might not be upgrading before age 65...
Don't worry.. SWAPA will be lobbying for age 70 before too long.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK View Post
The difference being they never settled nor caved in on scope. The BK is not a result of their failure to negotiate, that's ALPA rhetoric.

I have never heard anybody from ALPA say that the BK is a result of their failure to negotiate. Never. What they have said.. repeatedly.. is that their failure to negotiate has resulted in stagnant wages and work rules.. or more to the point.. no progress. Subtle difference I guess.. but it seems lost on you.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTriColor View Post
Am I missing something with the new system? I see on the reserve availability list that some people have already completed a short call, but I don't really see "credit" for it. I mean, in theory, if they have done a short call and are junior to me, shouldn't the "credit" for their short call knock them below me in line to get called for a trip? (Raise their 'raw' score) If they have done 2 SC's and I have done 1 shouldn't I be next in line to get assigned a trip because they have more SC's than me...thus a higher raw???

Now i'm confused even more
My understanding is that a SC only adds 5 pts to your RAW score, it doesn't affect whether a junior or senior pilot will be assigned a trip other than it may be enough to push a pilot into the next higher bucket.

As for SCs themselves, as of right now I think we're still under the previous system which means scheduling will lean towards distributing them evenly among the reserves, but it really comes down to who's available. That changes in May with the new SC rules. Others can step in here for those details.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
Don't worry.. SWAPA will be lobbying for age 70 before too long.
If they wait until I'm 64 then I'll have 5 good income years out of my 35-year airline career.

If they do it before then? Totally Hosed.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse View Post
My understanding is that a SC only adds 5 pts to your RAW score, it doesn't affect whether a junior or senior pilot will be assigned a trip other than it may be enough to push a pilot into the next higher bucket.

As for SCs themselves, as of right now I think we're still under the previous system which means scheduling will lean towards distributing them evenly among the reserves, but it really comes down to who's available. That changes in May with the new SC rules. Others can step in here for those details.

Thanks for the info!
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse View Post
My understanding is that a SC only adds 5 pts to your RAW score, it doesn't affect whether a junior or senior pilot will be assigned a trip other than it may be enough to push a pilot into the next higher bucket.

As for SCs themselves, as of right now I think we're still under the previous system which means scheduling will lean towards distributing them evenly among the reserves, but it really comes down to who's available. That changes in May with the new SC rules. Others can step in here for those details.
???
Didn't catch the memo on this one, care to expand?
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
If they wait until I'm 64 then I'll have 5 good income years out of my 35-year airline career.

If they do it before then? Totally Hosed.
Lol. That's funny.
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