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Old 01-28-2016, 11:39 AM
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Would going AD for 10 years first then reserve change my retirement benefits? When I receive them.


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It would change how much you would get each month in your retirement as you would probably have significantly more points, but wouldn't change you getting them at age 60.

PMing Mike was a joke. You'll get good advice, but it will be brutally honest.

Reserve or Active, you're going to be a military pilot, you should first figure out if that's for you.

It isn't particularly easy to get picked up as a pilot, active or reserve. It will take a lot of work on your part, which you should get moving on. Most likely, getting picked up as an off the street guy by a reserve unit would be much harder than getting an an active duty slot.

Other than that, you haven't given enough info to get usable advice. How old are you? College? Flying experience? Can you pass a military flight physical?
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Old 01-28-2016, 04:55 PM
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Could you elaborate? Everyone says go reserve..less BS. Never explain as to why that is.
I was AD for 14 years, and just now finishing up the last 6 years as an AGR (active duty Guard/Reserve) in the Reserves. I'd recommend that if you get hired by a Guard/Reserve unit where you want to live, consider it seriously. As Guard/Reserve you can still come on active duty orders and get active duty time toward the same 20 year retirement. Oh, by the way, this can be after you are hired by your major airline, and take military leave for up to 5 years. You hold your seniority and they still pay into your pension/get bonuses. As a part-timer, you will have less of the BS(queep) of full-timers. You DO, mostly just show up to fly. But, my Reserve experience was in a training unit supporting pilot training.
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- As an active duty guy, most new LTs get their first 1,000 hours within about 1.5 years or so, then as you start gaining rank you generally fly less
This is inaccurate. You'll be in pilot training and other training your first 1.5 years. That will be about 220ish hours. Then if you fly fighters figure 150-200 a year after that. Trainers 250 to 500 a year, heavy's...more. If you go AD it won't really matter because you'll likely have the hours after your commitment is up.

I went 12 AD then switched to reserves. I wanted to be a reservist (and airline pilot) but after 911 decided that AD was a better choice than languishing in the RJ world for a decade, so my situation is different that yours.

I'm a UPT instructor, feel free to PM me, this would be a better conversation over the phone.
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Would going AD for 10 years first then reserve change my retirement benefits? When I receive them.


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Doesn't help at all, you still don't get to collect until retirement (I thought it was 65 not 60).

You get credit for your active duty time towards retirement, but once you get 20 years of credit you'll be able to retire.
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It would change how much you would get each month in your retirement as you would probably have significantly more points, but wouldn't change you getting them at age 60.



PMing Mike was a joke. You'll get good advice, but it will be brutally honest.



Reserve or Active, you're going to be a military pilot, you should first figure out if that's for you.



It isn't particularly easy to get picked up as a pilot, active or reserve. It will take a lot of work on your part, which you should get moving on. Most likely, getting picked up as an off the street guy by a reserve unit would be much harder than getting an an active duty slot.



Other than that, you haven't given enough info to get usable advice. How old are you? College? Flying experience? Can you pass a military flight physical?

I'm 21 years old and finishing up my bachelors in Business Administration by next May. I'm currently working on my PPL. I will be buying study guides for all the tests here soon, AFOQT, BAT, Etc. After reviewing the requirements to pass a military flight physical I feel I should be fine there.

My dad worked in special ops under the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff for 20 years. He said he's going to try and get a hold of him and see if I could receive a letter of recommendation from him.

Other than that, I haven't gotten much farther. My main focus is to finish up school first. I'm just trying to gather as much information as I can, so I can make an educated decision when that time comes if I'm offered a slot.


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My dad worked in special ops under the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff for 20 years. He said he's going to try and get a hold of him and see if I could receive a letter of recommendation from him.
Special ops..... Very hush, hush...... Agent Orange, Special Agent Orange..that was me.

Just realized that's probably going to flop. This guy was born 12 years after Trading Places came out. Oh well.

Technically, everyone in the U.S. military works under the chairman of the JCS. He's the highest ranking military member. There have been seven individuals who have held that position in the last 20 years. I kind of doubt your dad worked directly for all of them. That's not your usual entry level job for a brand military member or one they would hold for 20 years straight. But, we get it, your dad may be able help you network. That's good.

Factual issues aside, if your dad can get the current chairman to take an interest in your personal situation, I'd say you have a better than average chance at a pilot slot. Keep us appraised and good luck.
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Special ops..... Very hush, hush...... Agent Orange, Special Agent Orange..that was me.



Just realized that's probably going to flop. This guy was born 12 years after Trading Places came out. Oh well.



Technically, everyone in the U.S. military works under the chairman of the JCS. He's the highest ranking military member. There have been seven individuals who have held that position in the last 20 years. I kind of doubt your dad worked directly for all of them. That's not your usual entry level job for a brand military member or one they would hold for 20 years straight. But, we get it, your dad may be able help you network. That's good.



Factual issues aside, if your dad can get the current chairman to take an interest in your personal situation, I'd say you have a better than average chance at a pilot slot. Keep us appraised and good luck.

Yeah my dad didn't work directly under all of them! Just one of them I believe. I hope his networking does help me get a pilot slot.

Thank you all for your input. My dad isn't around so it's hard finding all this information. I'll keep you posted!


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Why would most people choose ANG over the Reserves?


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Why would most people choose ANG over the Reserves?


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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars View Post
This is inaccurate. You'll be in pilot training and other training your first 1.5 years. That will be about 220ish hours. Then if you fly fighters figure 150-200 a year after that. Trainers 250 to 500 a year, heavy's...more. If you go AD it won't really matter because you'll likely have the hours after your commitment is up.

I went 12 AD then switched to reserves. I wanted to be a reservist (and airline pilot) but after 911 decided that AD was a better choice than languishing in the RJ world for a decade, so my situation is different that yours.

I'm a UPT instructor, feel free to PM me, this would be a better conversation over the phone.
That seems a lot lower than the Navy fighter guys.
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