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Old 04-18-2014, 06:05 AM
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Hard to believe 17 pages of nonsense has been generated from this meaningless post.
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:45 AM
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Hard to believe 17 pages of nonsense has been generated from this meaningless post.
You should change your posts per page my man. I only see 5 pages of non-sense.

Btw, directly from folks who have, or will interview SSP at Delta... Don't mention to your interviewer how great a fit you might be because you already fly Delta pax. It's been getting people shot down. Well, that and skeletons.
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Originally Posted by cencal83406 View Post
You should change your posts per page my man. I only see 5 pages of non-sense.

Btw, directly from folks who have, or will interview SSP at Delta... Don't mention to your interviewer how great a fit you might be because you already fly Delta pax. It's been getting people shot down. Well, that and skeletons.
I brought this up during the Delta interview prep workshop with the mgr of pilot selection at Delta. He said any past history of working under the Delta brand and/or serving Delta pax would only be a positive. I think it all depends on how you convey that experience. Your job history will obviously bring it to light. I think if you offer nothing else and thank you're automatically what they are looking for just because you fly for a DCI carrier than you might do more harm than good.
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I brought this up during the Delta interview prep workshop with the mgr of pilot selection at Delta. He said any past history of working under the Delta brand and/or serving Delta pax would only be a positive. I think it all depends on how you convey that experience. Your job history will obviously bring it to light. I think if you offer nothing else and thank you're automatically what they are looking for just because you fly for a DCI carrier than you might do more harm than good.
Well put. So much about interviewing is how you put things. If you start saying that you should basically be handed the job because you have already been flying DL passengers, you're going to get the "don't come back." If you relay that you take pride in carrying DL passengers, go the extra mile for them and provide excellent customer service on top of your pilot job... then the job is yours to be had.
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:44 PM
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Well put. So much about interviewing is how you put things. If you start saying that you should basically be handed the job because you have already been flying DL passengers, you're going to get the "don't come back." If you relay that you take pride in carrying DL passengers, go the extra mile for them and provide excellent customer service on top of your pilot job... then the job is yours to be had.
Ha, I have heard a lot of complaints about the SSP, funny though, getting hired at a legacy is a lot easier than getting a "legacy pay equivalent" job elsewhere. I have a friend that just got hired at Pixar Studios, his interview process was just shy of ten years long, and all that to top out at $120K.
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It's very concerning to me that MvA was not hired at Delta via the SSP, if there was one guy at this airline I would have thought Delta would pick, it would be him. He is a stand up guy, very professional and incredibly smart. Then, there is the issue of some of the misfits that Delta has hired, very confusing.
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Old 04-18-2014, 10:53 PM
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It's very concerning to me that MvA was not hired at Delta via the SSP, if there was one guy at this airline I would have thought Delta would pick, it would be him. He is a stand up guy, very professional and incredibly smart. Then, there is the issue of some of the misfits that Delta has hired, very confusing.
MvA is a bit of a surprise... however, I had one particularly confusing run in with him. After they implemented procedures that for a time restricted extending the flaps until after second engine start, I questioned him when I was in the schoolhouse on the fact that it excluded the the possibility of single engine taxi since several spoilers would stay white until flap extension that brought the B pumps online (since the taxi check would fail the flight control check). He began to sharply quiz me on aircraft systems without understanding of real aircraft functionality outside of the sim...while being very defensive of what convoluted procedure the puzzle palace had developed. The procedure changed after a couple months...

I can't overstress that he is overall a good guy, and it's too bad he didn't make the score needed to come over to the dark side. He has a good demeanor and would have made a good van admiral. Hopefully he just busted one of the computer tests and can get a second chance.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
MvA is a bit of a surprise... however, I had one particularly confusing run in with him. After they implemented procedures that for a time restricted extending the flaps until after second engine start, I questioned him when I was in the schoolhouse on the fact that it excluded the the possibility of single engine taxi since several spoilers would stay white until flap extension that brought the B pumps online (since the taxi check would fail the flight control check). He began to sharply quiz me on aircraft systems without understanding of real aircraft functionality outside of the sim...while being very defensive of what convoluted procedure the puzzle palace had developed. The procedure changed after a couple months...

I can't overstress that he is overall a good guy, and it's too bad he didn't make the score needed to come over to the dark side. He has a good demeanor and would have made a good van admiral. Hopefully he just busted one of the computer tests and can get a second chance.
AFAIK he is eligible to reapply in a year or whatever time frame it normally is.
I've talked to a couple other capts who know him, and their best guess is it was his quiet demeanor that put the HR people off. You know, those HR people who have no piloting skills whatsoever.
Another captain raised the quesion that mVanA came across as way too smart for the "Captain oriented culture at Delta".
With the secret squirrel ways the airlines have in regards to hiring selection, I'm sure that HE doesn't even know why he failed.
I'll say though that Delta is really losing out if they continually deny guys like him.
Also there is the possibility that Endeavor simply couldn't afford to lose hm.
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Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL View Post
It's very concerning to me that MvA was not hired at Delta via the SSP, if there was one guy at this airline I would have thought Delta would pick, it would be him. He is a stand up guy, very professional and incredibly smart. Then, there is the issue of some of the misfits that Delta has hired, very confusing.
Couldn't agree more. Delta HR still managed to strike out on several of 9E's "finest" that fell through their cracks, guys that were total complainers all day-every day, worst of attitudes, really negative dudes... Confusing.

I do see how MvA could've been too "quiet" of a guy. Still think he could've been a great asset to DL or any airline.
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They have hired a lot of really good people. The process is far from infallible however, I know of a couple doozies that were hired. One guy probably couldn't get hired at another regional is now a Delta pilot. When people hear he got hired literally everyone has the same reaction, extreme disbelief. The process definetly has its flaws if people like this are slippping in. If the process is failing to weed out some of the worst, most annoying pilots (and people) out there then they should just give everyone a number and be done with it. Even with the strict vetting process their pilot population is still going to end up with the 1%, no better and no worse than the general population of pilots.
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