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Old 01-31-2015, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedTaped View Post
No FLOW at PSA. Just an interview and a pay cap.
It is minimum jobs offered per month, not guaranteed interviews. They have to make offers.

The pay cap is inconsequential. If you are a FO past 4 years, or a CA past 12 years, you have done something seriously wrong. With 10% of the pilot group guaranteed a job at mainline each year, you should be gone in less than 10 years wether or not you wait for the ssp. Regionals are not designed for lifers, and the cap's ensure that you do not stay too long.
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Old 01-31-2015, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy View Post
It is minimum jobs offered per month, not guaranteed interviews. They have to make offers.

The pay cap is inconsequential. If you are a FO past 4 years, or a CA past 12 years, you have done something seriously wrong. With 10% of the pilot group guaranteed a job at mainline each year, you should be gone in less than 10 years wether or not you wait for the ssp. Regionals are not designed for lifers, and the cap's ensure that you do not stay too long.
That's what I said it's not a flow, it's an interview and a pay cap.
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Old 01-31-2015, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy View Post
It is minimum jobs offered per month, not guaranteed interviews. They have to make offers.

The pay cap is inconsequential. If you are a FO past 4 years, or a CA past 12 years, you have done something seriously wrong. With 10% of the pilot group guaranteed a job at mainline each year, you should be gone in less than 10 years wether or not you wait for the ssp. Regionals are not designed for lifers, and the cap's ensure that you do not stay too long.
This maybe one of the worst posts I've read on here.
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Old 01-31-2015, 04:59 PM
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This maybe one of the worst posts I've read on here.
It is an ugly truth, and it hurts. I understand that. It may be unfortunate, but it is the truth. Regionals are an entry level job, and thats it. Many people get lazy and never move on, and that is part of the problem with the regionals.
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Old 01-31-2015, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy View Post
It is an ugly truth, and it hurts. I understand that. It may be unfortunate, but it is the truth. Regionals are an entry level job, and thats it. Many people get lazy and never move on, and that is part of the problem with the regionals.
Have you been in the same industry as the rest of us have for the past decade?
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Old 01-31-2015, 05:47 PM
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Wow I didn't realize half the pilots at eagle were doing something wrong. Heck I'm a 7 yr FO there. Looks like I have 3 yrs to get out or something is wrong with me too. Glad I have 100% control over it. I'll put out my apps again.
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:01 PM
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Wow I didn't realize half the pilots at eagle were doing something wrong. Heck I'm a 7 yr FO there. Looks like I have 3 yrs to get out or something is wrong with me too. Glad I have 100% control over it. I'll put out my apps again.
What I actually said that anyone that gets hired today and is still in a regional in 10 years is doing something wrong. But, since you called me out, here is some more sticking points...

How many people that were hired the same month and year as you are now captains or with a major? By picking an airline, it is a gamble. Some people win, others lose. The ones that lose did something wrong. They made the wrong choice. If you are happy and wanted to be a 7 year FO, then it was a good choice for you, so this does not apply.

Others lose by not having a college degree, not networking and having lots of internal rep's, not joining the military (Air National Guard), not going to several job fairs, not maintaining a current application at the majors, not volunteering, or by not doing anything else to stand out from the herd.

Opportunities are available, you just have to go and get them. This CQFO is an example of people making a move to benefit them and their career. Dozens (probable 100 by now) Endeavor guys with 7+ years of seniority have made the jump to PSA and many of them are Captains now.

If you are hired today and do not want to be a 7 year FO, but find yourself stuck in that position, you did something wrong. Do you agree with that?
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy View Post
It is an ugly truth, and it hurts. I understand that. It may be unfortunate, but it is the truth. Regionals are an entry level job, and thats it. Many people get lazy and never move on, and that is part of the problem with the regionals.
I'm just gonna let all the guys that have been in the industry for the past 5-10 years reply to your moronic post.
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Coneydog View Post
I'm just gonna let all the guys that have been in the industry for the past 5-10 years reply to your moronic post.
I will gladly listen to any rational arguments.

My argument are:

Anyone that enters the industry today should be able to upgrade and then move on to a better job in under 12 years.

Anyone that has been stuck in the right seat for the past 7-10 years with no upgrade in sight, and has not done anything since to move to become a captain has not done everything that they can to further their career. (Not moved to another company with faster upgrades, not moved to become a CQFO)


Lastly, if you have not:
- Obtained a college degree
- Volunteered consistently
- Gone to at least 2 job fairs a year
- Kept your application updated at least once a quarter
- Moved to the training department for at least a few months
- Gotten at least 4 internal rec's/letters of recommendation from every major that they are applying to

then you have not done everything that you can to move up.
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:20 PM
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I don't know clt guy but he sounds like a flight instructor or someone that went straight from the military to a major and wonders why everyone else is too stupid to have done the same. Whatever dude. Congrats if you made it to the top. If your an Fo at a regional.... Well...... Good luck buddy because with your attitude you'll need some.
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