Originally Posted by
NuGuy
THAT was part of the JCBA that the fNWA guys had no hand in crafting. That was the way it was going to be, period.
Had the fDAL negotiators NOT given that away (and it was GIVEN away), we'd either still have CPZ or we'd have our DC-9 replacements.
I'll be back late tonight when I have more time, but I see nobody from the assembled forum wisdom has challenged this divisive, revisionist tripe.
The ENTIRE fNWA NC was in NYC for over a month working on the pre-merger announcement JCBA. Much of the fNWA committee structure (including Comm, R&I, and CA) was in NYC, eventually to be joined by the entire fNWA MEC. By late February a JCBA had been agreed to by the 3 parties, but there was no SLI, so no deal. Much of that same process was repeated in March, then the entire process was repeated again in June. Section 1 of the DAL PWA was substantially altered by the JCBA to include things like the fNWA Alaska code share, Compass, and the new agreement tightened permitted aircraft limits compared to the previous stand alone DAL and NWA contracts.
If I reversed the names above and said had the fNWA negotiators not given away CPZ we wouldn't have this problem, that the fDAL guys had no hand in crafting the language...how would that read? While the DAL PWA provided the framework for the JOINT CBA, the JCBA was a document that underwent at least 3 different sets of negotiations, was ratified by two separate MEC's and was voted on by 2 separate pilot groups.
That this forum allows this kind of stuff to stand unchallenged for 3 pages, yet wonders where's my response...
Sometimes you guys need to look in a mirror, imo.
Originally Posted by
NuGuy
There were more protections in the Compass thing than survived the merger. There was a narrowbody floor and provisions that Compass could not be sold until there was a 100 seat replacement on the mainline property. Obviously that could have been used for leverage by the joint MCs, but why it wasn't I will leave to your imagination.
Originally Posted by
nwaf16dude
Our narrowbody floor gets set on the 3rd of April. That being said, there are enough loopholes for the company to drive through that the floor is essentially meaningless in my opinion. I don't think either pilot group has scope worth bragging about, especially compared to what we had pre-bankruptcy.